Hamas/Israel conflict: news and discussion

[Dystopiary]

Here is your safe space. We're now going to bomb your safe space.

How we verified video of strike on fleeing Palestinians​

We've been reporting that at least 12 people, including young children, have been killed in a strike on a Palestinian convoy fleeing northern Gaza via a designated evacuation route.
We were able to do this because of video footage from the aftermath of the strike, which we verified the location of.

But y'know, humans. Make errors. Someone probably just pressed some wrong co-ordinates or something.

Worth a read, written by someone who lives there:

In the West Bank, Horror Mixes with Fear of What’s to Come

Checkpoints are up, Koran verses replace music in stores, and residents are bracing for more violence.

www.politico.com

This is pretty impressive:

From the Al Jazeera updates page ( UN says Gaza shelters ‘not safe anymore’ as water runs out for 2.3m people )

All of this has been green-lighted by "our" senior politicians. They must never be allowed to forget what they've supported here: war crimes.

 

[Kid_Eternity]

You don’t hold the ‘average person’ in much regard do you?

Having spent 20 years in data/ polling and communications it’s not about judgment or “regard”; it’s about knowing largely how the British public think and act.

 

[Mattym]

I was joking about his political affiliation. I thought some of the more liberal on here might more take the word of him, respected BBC programme maker, than me.

FFS- lol- I've just been googling that for the last 5 mins in a semi pissed up/stoned state.

 

[planetgeli]

Having spent 20 years in data/ polling and communications it’s not about judgment or “regard”; it’s about knowing largely how the British public think and act.

So the British public, who are constantly informed we are one of the few unarmed police forces in the world (if only this were true and not just a media plea for them to be fully armed), are so thick they don't hear that and would think Israel, a country constantly at war with an enemy 'within' have unarmed police? Just admit you're being stupid and move on.

In other news, for those still thinking Israel give a shit about their own hostages, this from Israeli national security advisor Tzachi Henegbi

He went on to refuse negotiations surrounding prisoner swaps with Hamas, saying: “There’s no way to negotiate with an enemy we have sworn to obliterate.”

 

[Kid_Eternity]

So the British public, who are constantly informed we are one of the few unarmed police forces in the world (if only this were true and not just a media plea for them to be fully armed), are so thick they don't hear that and would think Israel, a country constantly at war with an enemy 'within' have unarmed police? Just admit you're being stupid and move on.

In other news, for those still thinking Israel give a shit about their own hostages, this from Israeli national security advisor Tzachi Henegbi

He went on to refuse negotiations surrounding prisoner swaps with Hamas, saying: “There’s no way to negotiate with an enemy we have sworn to obliterate.”

You’re an idiot.

 

[planetgeli]

You’re an idiot.

Damn. Lost that one.

 

[platinumsage]

Here is your safe space. We're now going to bomb your safe space.

How we verified video of strike on fleeing Palestinians​

We've been reporting that at least 12 people, including young children, have been killed in a strike on a Palestinian convoy fleeing northern Gaza via a designated evacuation route.
We were able to do this because of video footage from the aftermath of the strike, which we verified the location of.

But y'know, humans. Make errors. Someone probably just pressed some wrong co-ordinates or something.

I don’t see much verification there.

Compare to this incident today. It would make much more sense that Hamas are bombing but no point jumping to conclusions.

 

[A380]

You’re an idiot.

He isn’t. I’m not fully in agreement with planetgeli on this particular thread, but he definitely isn’t an idiot.

You however are definitely a fucking snob and, probably, not a particularly bright one.

 

[planetgeli]

I don’t see much verification there.

Oh please don't make yourself look stupid. It's now the lead story on the BBC.

 

[Ax^]

pretty grim and chilling video of the event and aftermath of the IDF shellign journolist on the boarder with jordon today

Shelling on south Lebanon border kills one journalist and injures six

won't link to them here 1 dead and 6 injured.
all marked as press as away from were the fire fight was happening

 

[Dystopiary]

pretty grim and chilling video of the event and aftermath of the IDF shellign journolist on the boarder with jordon today

Shelling on south Lebanon border kills one journalist and injures six

won't link to them here 1 dead and 6 injured.
all marked as press as away from were the fire fight was happening

Not today though, yesterday mate. Really bad, yeah.

 

[Ax^]

ah only saw the videos today

my bad half stoned on flu meds

 

[Dystopiary]

ah only saw the videos today

my bad half stoned on flu meds

The piece you posted has a lot more detail though so I'm glad you did.

 

[Pickman's model]

ah only saw the videos today

my bad half stoned on flu meds

So they're not all bad

 

[Pickman's model]

pretty grim and chilling video of the event and aftermath of the IDF shellign journolist on the boarder with jordon today

Shelling on south Lebanon border kills one journalist and injures six

won't link to them here 1 dead and 6 injured.
all marked as press as away from were the fire fight was happening

That's where the journos are going wrong, they have no human shields

 

[Ax^]

So they're not all bad

flu meds hmm maybe a little cocodomol in the mix seems to work

 

[Ax^]

wrong thread

 

[Johnny Vodka]

Boak

Sunak promises Israel ‘unqualified support in face of evil’ – but makes no mention of Gaza’s plight

Keir Starmer also backs Israel but issues call for all parties to act in line with international law

www.theguardian.com

 

[Boris Sprinkler]

Copenhagen, today

 

[Larry O'Hara]

Israeli president Isaac Herzog blames the entire Palestine people .

This sick fuxxer sees no civilians.

War Criminal: who like Blair Bush and Kissinger will not be tried

 

[Gramsci]

The BBC report on the demo

Pro-Palestinian march draws thousands in London with protests across UK

Police warn that anyone showing support for Hamas, a proscribed terrorist group, could face arrest.

www.bbc.co.uk

Palestine Action are taking responsibility, according to this report, for daubing BBC building with red paint -for their biased reporting. Slightly unfair as BBC have had stick from the right for not saying Hamas are terrorist.

However this particular article on BBC website annoys me.

Gives report of the demo. Then at end adds bit about rise in anti semitic incidents recorded by the Met.

This is a different issue.

Putting it in same report on a largely peaceful demo at which no anti semitic incident took place is imo implying public demonstrations of support for Palestinians as a people and opposition to bombing of Gaza is somehow contributing to an atmosphere where anti semitic incidents increase. This is the kind of thing that winds me up.

 

[Gramsci]

double post.

 

[keybored]

Well you only get one "Like".

 

[WhyLikeThis]

Copenhagen, today

Most of Israels previous crimes, while extreme and grotesque have not warranted that comparison.

This time, they are overtly, consciously and unashamedly planning and executing genocide. We are getting to the point where we need to ask ourselves what are we doing to stop this?

 

[Kid_Eternity]

Most of Israels previous crimes, while extreme and grotesque have not warranted that comparison.

This time, they are overtly, consciously and unashamedly planning and executing genocide. We are getting to the point where we need to ask ourselves what are we doing to stop this?

Who is ‘we’?

 

[Johnny Vodka]

This time, they are overtly, consciously and unashamedly planning and executing genocide. We are getting to the point where we need to ask ourselves what are we doing to stop this?

Nothing. The UK government is a disgraceful cheerleader to carnage, genocide and war crimes. Best you can do is put out the word to friends, family and the wider world that it's not in your name - and give to a charity that will help Palestinians, once aid is allowed by Israel.

 

[WhyLikeThis]

Who is ‘we’?

Not you, apparently.

 

[Kid_Eternity]

Not you, apparently.

Who are you talking about? What can they practically do to stop this??

 

[Kid_Eternity]

Nothing. The UK government is a disgraceful cheerleader to carnage, genocide and war crimes. Best you can do is put out the word to friends, family and the wider world that it's not in your name - and give to a charity that will help Palestinians, once aid is allowed by Israel.

This is why I asked who we was. At this stage the most impact I think I can have is giving to the national appeal the DEC will likely be running in the next week or two. In the meantime I’m donating to Islamic Relief UK.

 

[Johnny Vodka]

This is why I asked who we was. At this stage the most impact I think I can have is giving to the national appeal the DEC will likely be running in the next week or two. In the meantime I’m donating to Islamic Relief UK.

I'd feel weird about donating to a charity that mentions any specific religion in their title. I'm sure they are okay, but it just doesn't sit that well with me...