Worldwide protest/actions concerning events in Gaza/Palestine/Israel

[Protag]

In light of the student protests US politicians are trying to enshrine in law the IHRA definition of anti semitism. Which conflates criticism of Israel with anti semitism.

This is clearly attempt to stop protests in future.

American Civil Liberties Union has put out this statement today opposing this:

ACLU Condemns House Passage of Dangerous Bill That Would Chill Free Speech | American Civil Liberties Union

This Bill Would Falsely Equate Criticism of Israel with Antisemitic Discrimination

www.aclu.org

More here:

US House passes controversial bill that expands definition of anti-Semitism

Rights groups warn that the definition could further chill freedom of speech as protests continue on college campuses.

www.aljazeera.com

The United States of Israel does not want to be criticised while it is killing kids, but this is not surprising. Any power structure will try to restrict its opponents, regardless of what any legal structure says, like the Holy Constitution and its blessed free speech laws. It will just call the opponents Hitler or terrorists, hatemongers, or whatever.

But I am not convinced the protests will come to much. There seems to be a lot of bourgeois "progressives" in the movement, and I am guessing that they are upset at Israel because it is damaging to their alliance against the "straight white male". Are they upset at the land stealing, or the bad optics? I am guessing the latter.

 

[andysays]

The United States of Israel does not want to be criticised while it is killing kids, but this is not surprising. Any power structure will try to restrict its opponents, regardless of what any legal structure says, like the Holy Constitution and its blessed free speech laws. It will just call the opponents Hitler or terrorists, hatemongers, or whatever.

But I am not convinced the protests will come to much. There seems to be a lot of bourgeois "progressives" in the movement, and I am guessing that they are upset at Israel because it is damaging to their alliance against the "straight white male". Are they upset at the land stealing, or the bad optics? I am guessing the latter.

WTF is this?

 

[SpineyNorman]

Dunno but I only need sheeple for a full house now

 

[frogwoman]

The United States of Israel does not want to be criticised while it is killing kids, but this is not surprising. Any power structure will try to restrict its opponents, regardless of what any legal structure says, like the Holy Constitution and its blessed free speech laws. It will just call the opponents Hitler or terrorists, hatemongers, or whatever.

But I am not convinced the protests will come to much. There seems to be a lot of bourgeois "progressives" in the movement, and I am guessing that they are upset at Israel because it is damaging to their alliance against the "straight white male". Are they upset at the land stealing, or the bad optics? I am guessing the latter.

 

[frogwoman]

There seems to be a lot of bourgeois "progressives" in the movement, and I am guessing that they are upset at Israel because it is damaging to their alliance against the "straight white male".

 

[hash tag]

I've just followed up something ska invita said on another unrelated thread. To me, war, invasions, genocide and all their forms are crimes, but hey, Israel using phosphorus

Amnesty International: Israel Repeatedly Committed War Crimes With US Weapons

The human rights group called on the US to immediately suspend arms shipments to Israel.

truthout.org

 

[ska invita]

I've just followed up something ska invita said on another unrelated thread. To me, war, invasions, genocide and all their forms are crimes, but hey, Israel using phosphorus

Amnesty International: Israel Repeatedly Committed War Crimes With US Weapons

The human rights group called on the US to immediately suspend arms shipments to Israel.

truthout.org

They used it repeatedly in 2008?9 operation cast lead too.... Guess what international law didn't do fuck all then either

 

[krtek a houby]

The United States of Israel does not want to be criticised while it is killing kids, but this is not surprising. Any power structure will try to restrict its opponents, regardless of what any legal structure says, like the Holy Constitution and its blessed free speech laws. It will just call the opponents Hitler or terrorists, hatemongers, or whatever.

But I am not convinced the protests will come to much. There seems to be a lot of bourgeois "progressives" in the movement, and I am guessing that they are upset at Israel because it is damaging to their alliance against the "straight white male". Are they upset at the land stealing, or the bad optics? I am guessing the latter.

Parklife!

 

[krtek a houby]

TCD students joining the worldwide protests

Students vow to occupy Trinity College Dublin campus 'indefinitely' in protest over war in Gaza

In a statement on Saturday, a TCD spokesperson said an 'unauthorised BDS encampment' is currently in place in Trinity

www.irishexaminer.com

 

[teqniq]

 

[Pickman's model]

The United States of Israel does not want to be criticised while it is killing kids, but this is not surprising. Any power structure will try to restrict its opponents, regardless of what any legal structure says, like the Holy Constitution and its blessed free speech laws. It will just call the opponents Hitler or terrorists, hatemongers, or whatever.

But I am not convinced the protests will come to much. There seems to be a lot of bourgeois "progressives" in the movement, and I am guessing that they are upset at Israel because it is damaging to their alliance against the "straight white male". Are they upset at the land stealing, or the bad optics? I am guessing the latter.

Lots of I I I there. It's not about you.

 

[teqniq]

Very eloquent response by this student. Surprisingly it appears to have been broadcast on Fox news as well unless of course they are going for the anti-Biden angle:

 

[Serge Forward]

Very eloquent response by this student. Surprisingly it appears to have been broadcast on Fox news as well unless of course they are going for the anti-Biden angle:

According to Wikipedia, Fox 32 Chicago has some editorial independence from Fox News.

 

[krtek a houby]

Sometimes, amidst all the despair, little victories matter

Trinity College Dublin agrees to divest from Israeli firms after student protest

Five-day encampment in university grounds that caused the college major loss of income ended in victory for campaigners

www.theguardian.com

 

[Yossarian]

Sometimes, amidst all the despair, little victories matter

Trinity College Dublin agrees to divest from Israeli firms after student protest

Five-day encampment in university grounds that caused the college major loss of income ended in victory for campaigners

www.theguardian.com

It's a shame more universities aren't coming out with statements like this:

We fully understand the driving force behind the encampment on our campus and we are in solidarity with the students in our horror at what is happening in Gaza. We abhor and condemn all violence and war, including the atrocities of October 7th, the taking of hostages and the continuing ferocious and disproportionate onslaught in Gaza. The humanitarian crisis in Gaza and the dehumanisation of its people is obscene. We support the International Court of Justice’s position that ‘Israel must take all measures within its power to prevent and punish the direct and public incitement to commit genocide in relation to members of the Palestinian group in the Gaza Strip.’

A real and lasting solution that respects the human rights of everyone needs to be found.

Student encampment and blockade at Trinity to end

Update at 7pm, 8 May 2024

www.tcd.ie

 

[teqniq]

What a fucking embarrassment this man is:

Labour's Lammy suggests Mandela would oppose Gaza student protests

The shadow foreign secretary was addressing US Republicans during a speech in Washington

www.middleeasteye.net

 

[Pickman's model]

What a fucking embarrassment this man is:

Labour's Lammy suggests Mandela would oppose Gaza student protests

The shadow foreign secretary was addressing US Republicans during a speech in Washington

www.middleeasteye.net

It wouldn't matter if he was but an embarrassment but he's a positive shit who'll cause untold damage to millions of people's lives if he becomes foreign secretary. Rimming republicans now will be supporting their foreign policy quite possibly in a few months time

 

[Knotted]

What a fucking embarrassment this man is:

Labour's Lammy suggests Mandela would oppose Gaza student protests

The shadow foreign secretary was addressing US Republicans during a speech in Washington

www.middleeasteye.net

 

[teqniq]

 

[Boris Sprinkler]

 

[Mezzer]

Not sure if this was posted before. Clearly never going to happen, but extraordinary that it's even suggested. How would it even work in practice? It would be a death sentence.

US House Bill Proposes Sending Pro-Palestine College Demonstrators to Gaza?

The proposed bill stipulates a minimum of six months of community service in Gaza for those convicted.

www.snopes.com

 

[Yossarian]

Cops attack student protesters at the University of California, Irvine

 

[teqniq]

What a bunch of complete arseholes.

 

[teqniq]

Also there's this I saw yesterday:


From:

Photos: Orlando police use chemical agent on pro-Palestinian protesters

Orlando Police arrested two people and deployed pepper spray last Saturday during a 1,200-person otherwise peaceful rally calling for a ceasefire in Gaza at Lake Eola Park.

www.cltampa.com

 

[Dogsauce]

Keep on rocking in the free world, lads.

 

[Whagwan]

Brilliant treatment of GBeebies and Braverman by the Cambridge encampment,

 

[teqniq]

Later in the studio....:

 

[Gramsci]

Later in the studio....:

Brilliant. These students have been outstanding. Just watched Owen Jones coverage of this.

Worth remembering it was Braverman was pushing line when in government that protestors/ marchers were Hate protestors / marchers when she was in government.

As Owen said the student reframed the question. This did not start on October 7th. The anniversary of the Nakba was few days ago.

This , correctly the student said, started in 48 with the Nakba. And this has been an ongoing process.

All the demos I've been on have been peaceful.

Another thing to remember it was politician like Braverman who gave license to the far right to come to London to "defend" it from the Hate marchers.

There have been now months of peaceful protest by students and ordinary people. Note the "usual suspects" have not been whipping this these protests up.

I notice at the student demos and the marches whilst the "usual suspects" are there predominantly its not people aligned with any faction.

Braverman on her walk around tried to ask the students if they were at the Uni. ( Ie not outside "agitators") Then asked them what was there message to Hamas.

Baiting them

The students did the right thing in not saying anything.

TBH I don't think I could have done it.

It was exactly the right thing to do.

So I think its about time the allegations of hatred / anti semitism of those who support Palestinian rights should stop now. Its tiresome and keeps getting made despite evidence to the contrary.

 

[Gramsci]

Later in the studio....:

After watching Novara media coverage not sure so now about her.

Fiona Lali is national campaigns organiser for the Revolutionary Communist Party. Who I get mixed up with the Revolutionary Communist Group who I see around my way. One of the more colourful groups.

And she did say she wasn't at the camp that Braverman went to. So could be case her of one of those tiny sects jumping to get media coverage to get the revolutionary message across. Rather than being chosen to represent the students at the camp.

Still she did speak well. And Braverman was rather put on the back foot.

And when asked by GB presenter if she thought Capitalism should be smashed she immediately answers Yes of course. Nice one. The presenter didn't have anything to say to that.

Must say all these protests have meant that people whose views don't get a say are suddenly on mainstream news.

 

[teqniq]

An interactive map of Gaza Solidarity Encampments around the world.

www.palestineiseverywhere.com