teqniq
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A friend sent me this on WhatsApp. Police and protestors in Germany apparently:
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Worldwide protest/actions concerning events in Gaza/Palestine/Israel
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Hundreds of students arrested in US Gaza war protests, scuffles at UCLA
Police out in full force, using chemical irritants and Tasers to disperse students, as more universities join movement.
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UCLA chancellor condemns ‘instigators’ who attacked pro-Palestinian camp on campus
Los Angeles mayor calls late-night attack by counter-demonstrators ‘abhorrent’ as footage shows people wielding sticks
Wondering if the attackers are fash, or at the very least inspired by the online chatter about the protesters?
They've been labelled as terrorists/anti-American/insurrectionists and the usual slurs. A lot of it seems to come from supporters of January 6th.
What the Trumpists don't get is that the campus protesters have a legitimate reason to protest, unlike the January 6th people who bought into the lies about stolen elections and "taking back America".
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I think the counterprotesters were mainly pro-Israel not fash, some of them shouted "Second Nakba" as they attacked the UCLA encampment, with cops standing by as they assaulted protesters
teqniq
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Great not too long thread on the student protests at Columbia University by one of the professors:
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@dr_tey: I’m as guilty as anyone of thinking of my @Columbia undergraduates as “kids.” But here is what I’ve seen them do in the last two weeks: (1/10) 1. I’ve seen small groups of student engage in...…
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Cloo
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I'm wondering about this - I can imagine 'anti-woke' types are up for a barny.UCLA chancellor condemns ‘instigators’ who attacked pro-Palestinian camp on campus
Los Angeles mayor calls late-night attack by counter-demonstrators ‘abhorrent’ as footage shows people wielding stickswww.theguardian.com
Wondering if the attackers are fash, or at the very least inspired by the online chatter about the protesters?
They've been labelled as terrorists/anti-American/insurrectionists and the usual slurs. A lot of it seems to come from supporters of January 6th.
What the Trumpists don't get is that the campus protesters have a legitimate reason to protest, unlike the January 6th people who bought into the lies about stolen elections and "taking back America".
I'm finding it very hard to know exactly what to make of these protests as of course almost everything I see is highly partisan, and also I suspect the protests are fairly different at different places but they're all being painted as the same. Everything I see about them tends to fall into 'Protestors are violent, Hamas-loving thugs who have beaten up Jewish students' or 'Protestors are noble heroes and Jews are being cry-babies just because they don't like their beloved Israel being show up'
They were interviewing a Jewish student in the US who was very supportive of Israel's actions/position on R4 earlier. He was very much of the 'all protestors are Hamas and terrorists' school of thought. When asked about the Jewish people who were protesting in support of the Palestinians, he basically said they weren't proper Jews and didn't count. Oh, and he'd pray for them. 
teqniq
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Cloo there's a whole series of vids here and they are very long but the general gist of them is well, have a look:
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@FilmThePoliceLA: Here is the first 24 minutes of the attack at UCLA. Make no mistake: the attacks were solely initiated by the pro-Israel side. 11:15 PM: Cops arrive. But not a single cop engaged until after...…
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Cloo
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That's a... weirdly non-Jewish thing to sayOh, and he'd pray for them.
We don't really do 'praying for people to see the light' kind of prayer, that's a Christian thing. Not saying this person isn't Jewish but definitely a smug asshole.Also, I looked up that yellow flag in the final video - apparently associated with the Orthodox Chabad-Lubavich movement. Doesn't necessarily mean it was them of course.
Gramsci
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Been following some of what has been happening in US universities.
Given the political climate in US with Democrat leadership and right in US supporting Israel what these students are doing is necessary and very brave.
People in Gaza have been painting their tents with slogans in English thanking these students.
As a comparison and to show why these students are right to be protesting this Israeli Palestinian academic has been arrested and treated very badly by Israeli state and sections of Israeli society for standing up for Palestinians and criticising Israel.
In particular, as a Palestinian Israeli , criticising Zionism as a political project.
In Israel she has been subject to arrest and character assassination for what she has been saying.
This is written by a student of hers.
www.972mag.com
This article shows how Zionism as a political project means someone like her is treated as a dissident who should be jailed.
IMO it shows the importance of international support for those subject to Zionism in Palestine.
Given the political climate in US with Democrat leadership and right in US supporting Israel what these students are doing is necessary and very brave.
People in Gaza have been painting their tents with slogans in English thanking these students.
As a comparison and to show why these students are right to be protesting this Israeli Palestinian academic has been arrested and treated very badly by Israeli state and sections of Israeli society for standing up for Palestinians and criticising Israel.
In particular, as a Palestinian Israeli , criticising Zionism as a political project.
In Israel she has been subject to arrest and character assassination for what she has been saying.
This is written by a student of hers.
The orchestrated persecution of Nadera Shalhoub-Kevorkian
A campaign by Israeli academia, police, and media to silence the professor shows Palestinians they have no safe place in Zionist institutions.
www.972mag.com
This article shows how Zionism as a political project means someone like her is treated as a dissident who should be jailed.
IMO it shows the importance of international support for those subject to Zionism in Palestine.
Gramsci
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People of Gaza thank American students
From this article. British Historian , Priyamvada Gopal, whose book on Empire is excellent read.
In standing up for Gaza, US students have exposed the limits of free speech
On campuses across America, we see a moral refusal among the young to be complicit in violence accepted by their elders
www.prospectmagazine.co.uk
She points out that what the students are asking for is not that unreasonable. That there universities disinvest from Israeli and companies that do business with Israel. That not all Americans support way US state supports Israel.
And most important they are doing this as a peaceful protest. Yet have been subject to state violence supported by university authorities
And now pro Israeli vigilantes. This after the piece was written. Been watching this tonight. Police stood by whilst pro Israel people attacked protestors.
teqniq
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Cloo there's a whole series of vids here and they are very long but the general gist of them is well, have a look:
unrolled thread:
Thread by @FilmThePoliceLA on Thread Reader App
@FilmThePoliceLA: Here is the first 24 minutes of the attack at UCLA. Make no mistake: the attacks were solely initiated by the pro-Israel side. 11:15 PM: Cops arrive. But not a single cop engaged until after...…
Well the attacks seem to have backfired spectacularly. That's a lot of people:
Yossarian
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After the UCLA encampment was attacked, cops who stood by during the attack waited until the middle of the next night to finish the job
As of 3:30 a.m., some protesters are on the ground in the encampment with zip ties around their wrists, surrounded by officers. Daily Bruin reporters have identified at least one UCLA professor who has been detained in the encampment.
Blair said in a texted statement sent around 3:45 a.m. that student protesters were “violently dragged” from the encampment by CHP officers. He added that some students were visibly injured, and stun grenades were used while officers also pointed guns loaded with less-than-lethal rounds at students – both of which faculty present have demanded officers cease to use.
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As of 3:30 a.m., some protesters are on the ground in the encampment with zip ties around their wrists, surrounded by officers. Daily Bruin reporters have identified at least one UCLA professor who has been detained in the encampment.
Blair said in a texted statement sent around 3:45 a.m. that student protesters were “violently dragged” from the encampment by CHP officers. He added that some students were visibly injured, and stun grenades were used while officers also pointed guns loaded with less-than-lethal rounds at students – both of which faculty present have demanded officers cease to use.
LAPD breaches Palestine solidarity encampment at UCLA in dispersal attempt - Daily Bruin
This post was updated May 2 at 4:18 a.m. For the Daily Bruin’s full coverage of the UC Divest Coalition and Students for Justice in Palestine encampment, see here.
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teqniq
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This photo may have been completely misleading. According the the Washington Post the cops broke up the protest in the early hours of the morning:
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Gramsci
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His he for real? Or is this some kind of satirical spoof?
My first reaction was to laugh. You couldn't make this up.
Supporters of Israel as a Zionist state aren't doing well on the PR side at this time.
What gets me is that people like him and here people like CAA and Suella Braverman keep trying to tar pro Palestinian protest but the actual people who are being violent are pro Israeli / far right.
Or groups like CAA whining about how unsafe they feel. Based on no evidence.
Here with the Tommy Robinson lot and In US pro Israel boot boys attacking protestors.
Watching Novara media last night and it was pointed out by one of the presenters the kind of language that a politician like this uses gives others the justification for attacking peaceful protestors. I agree.
I think someone should give Zionists a bit of PR advice. Nil points on putting their argument across.
But then Zionism is based on ethnic cleansing of Palestinians to create a Zionist homeland. And looks to me a lot of people have wised up to that.
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Gramsci
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I don't doubt your posts. It's that people like him can get away with it.
Listening to what he was saying and it's not anti semitism that's the problem it is imo what he says reeks of racist attitudes towards Palestinians in Gaza.
This is never questioned.
Gramsci
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In light of the student protests US politicians are trying to enshrine in law the IHRA definition of anti semitism. Which conflates criticism of Israel with anti semitism.
This is clearly attempt to stop protests in future.
American Civil Liberties Union has put out this statement today opposing this:
www.aclu.org
More here:
www.aljazeera.com
This is clearly attempt to stop protests in future.
American Civil Liberties Union has put out this statement today opposing this:
ACLU Condemns House Passage of Dangerous Bill That Would Chill Free Speech | American Civil Liberties Union
This Bill Would Falsely Equate Criticism of Israel with Antisemitic Discrimination
www.aclu.org
More here:
US House passes controversial bill that expands definition of anti-Semitism
Rights groups warn that the definition could further chill freedom of speech as protests continue on college campuses.
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I hate 'these days'...
Sen. Tom Cotton is, unfortunately all too real and he has form for calling for violence to be perpetrated against protestors and 'rioters' (see his comments regards the BLM protests that swept the US). Except, oddly, on the matter of the Jan 6th rioters and 'protestors', he seems remarkably quiet. He also has altogether far too much neck -in both senses of the word.
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