Israel and hezbollah after the exploding pagers

[SpookyFrank]

I hope they said "please".....

US urges Israel to stop shooting at UN peacekeepers in Lebanon

Israel has acknowledged that shots fired by its military injured two UN troops in southern Lebanon on Friday.

www.bbc.co.uk

So, no demands they stop targetting UN personell and facilities, just 'urging' them to do so. I'm sure that'll make Netanyahu quake in his boots.

This just confirms for the record that the US is aware that Israel is committing war crimes but will continue to back them anyway.

Again.

 

[Gramsci]

Israel orders more evacuations in Lebanon and threatens medics who treat Hezbollah members

Military spokesperson demands that medics ‘avoid dealing with Hezbollah operatives’ and claims ambulances used to transport weapons

www.theguardian.com

Says IDF regard ambulances as potential targets. As Israel says they are being used by Hezbollah fighters as transport.

What the article does not explain is that due to parlous state of Lebanon it's left to different political groups to run basic services.

So some of the support for running ambulances comes from Hezbollah.

That's not a unique situation in Lebanon. Which is a borderline failed state.

Just to make clear. This doesn't mean ambulances are being used to ferry fighters and weapons around.

It's just Israel again trying to justify targeting civilians.

 

[PTK]

Don’t quote or refer to
Me you right wing cunt.

Come on, there's no need for that kind of language.

 

[Spymaster]

Come on, there's no need for that kind of language.

Quite right.

You're very rude TopCat

 

[TopCat]

‘They are taking incredible care of us’: Lebanon’s Shia put their faith in Hezbollah

The group, proscribed as terrorists by the west, hands out food, cash and medicines to people displaced in the conflict

www.theguardian.com

 

[tim]

It's actually quite surprising that a country ( Israel) can remain a member at the UN and also be in the habit of targeting UN peacekeepers,as they admit, with tank shells and today live fire

The United Nations is and always has been a cunts club, so it is not surprising at all.

Also that shitty emoji is very popular withconspiraloon antiSemites.

 

[maomao]

The United Nations is and always has been a cunts club, so it is not surprising at all.

The vast majority of the population of the world is represented in some way at the UN so is this any more purposeful than the rather asinine observation that 'most people are cunts'?

 

[HeAthen]

This just confirms for the record that the US is aware that Israel is committing war crimes but will continue to back them anyway.

Again.

Anyone with a functioning brain cell can tell that Israel is comitting war crimes just like anyone can tell that the US and UK governments (previous and current) amongst others are complicit in aiding them.

 

[Duncan2]

The United Nations is and always has been a cunts club, so it is not surprising at all.

Also that shitty emoji is very popular withconspiraloon antiSemites.

If being opposed to Zionism makes me an anti- Semite I suppose I will have to live with that

 

[tim]

The vast majority of the population of the world is represented in some way at the UN so is this any more purposeful than the rather asinine observation that 'most people are cunts'?

The UN represents the regimes that control the vast majority of the world's population many of which are far from benign.

The Permanent Members of the Security Council, the Godfathers, are France, the UK, China, Russia, and the USA. All of the above oppress and slaughter with impunity.

Israel is there with the other minnows including: Myanmar, Saudi Arabia, El Salvador, Iran Belarus, Ukraine, Syria, Mali, Kazakhstan, India, Turkey, Italy, Pakistan etc

 

[Gramsci]

The UN represents the regimes that control the vast majority of the world's population many of which are far from benign.

The Permanent Members of the Security Council, the Godfathers, are France, the UK, China, Russia, and the USA. All of the above oppress and slaughter with impunity.

Israel is there with the other minnows including: Myanmar, Saudi Arabia, El Salvador, Iran Belarus, Ukraine, Syria, Mali, Kazakhstan, India, Turkey, Italy, Pakistan etc

This is one argument to get rid of the veto.

UN general assembly voted to support the ICJ ruling on the occupation by a majority.

Unfortunately use of veto means its unlikely to go further than general assembly.

 

[teqniq]

There was an incident involving UNIFIL troops and the IDF, here is the latter's account of events:



The UNIFIL statement tells a somewhat different accounting of events:

UNIFIL statement (13 October 2024)

Early this morning, peacekeepers at a UN position in Ramyah observed three platoons of IDF soldiers crossing the Blue Line into Lebanon. At around 4:30 a.m., while peacekeepers were in shelters, two IDF Merkava tanks destroyed the position’s main gate and forcibly entered the position. They...

unifil.unmissions.org

and now:

 

[tim]

This is one argument to get rid of the veto.

UN general assembly voted to support the ICJ ruling on the occupation by a majority.

Unfortunately use of veto means its unlikely to go further than general assembly.

The veto won't go because any attempt to get rid of it would be vetoed. As to the ICJ, it is toothless which is why Netanyahu loses as little sleep about it as Assad and Putin do.

 

[Idris2002]

Looks like Hezbollah got a senior IDF commander with a drone attack, along with 40 more dead or wounded IDFers.

"We only have to be lucky once. . ."

 

[teqniq]

Ori Goldberg on the drone attack and the implications:

 

[Gramsci]

By someone who years back was in UNIFIL

Ireland's peacekeepers in Lebanon are putting their lives on the line. I know – I was one of them | Tom Clonan

In 1996, I witnessed the horror as the Israeli army fired on UN positions. Now history is repeating itself, says Irish senator Tom Clonan

www.theguardian.com

Back in 1996,

In the midst of the destruction, we took almost 200 civilians into our UN position. We shared our meagre rations, water and medical supplies with these terrified people. Our neighbouring UN position at the village of Qana also took in civilians. However, it was directly targeted by the IDF and over 100 men, women and children were slaughtered there in shelling on 18 April 1996.

And I thought this was interesting. As ex army he is saying this what the IDF are dong now,

The situation in Lebanon is much worse today. The IDF has for the most part abandoned the traditional military doctrine of “advance to contact” operations, where armies tactically respond to enemy fire. The IDF in Gaza and now Lebanon is operating what military analysts term a doctrine of “reconnaissance by fire”, where it pre-emptively opens fire on everything and everyone its forces encounter in their advance to deter ambushes. In this, they do not distinguish between either Hamas and Hezbollah targets and civilians or civilian objects. Hence the shockingly high civilian casualty rates.

 

[TopCat]

US intervention points to growing concerns over Israel’s air defences

After Hezbollah drone strike, any tit-for-tat strikes with Iran could pose a bigger problem still for Israel’s defences

www.theguardian.com