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Do we have it from any other reputable sources?
Reuters quotes the Axios piece. There's a bit in the Torygraph and there's this which speaks about an NYT piece but does not link to it. It also speculates that any attack would likely be after the US election whereas the Axios piece says before:

 
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Do we have it from any other reputable sources?
its pretty likely tbh, though so far every retaliatory strike hasn't done much and is more face saving than anything

why full war hasn't broken out is an interesting thing....the 'provocation' from Israel is off the chart.... i can only speculate that its either that neighbouring countries calculate they haven nothing to gain and everything to lose from full war, but also it seems likely to me that they are massively outarmed and would simply lose
 
why full war hasn't broken out is an interesting thing....the 'provocation' from Israel is off the chart.... i can only speculate that its either that neighbouring countries calculate they haven nothing to gain and everything to lose from full war, but also it seems likely to me that they are massively outarmed and would simply lose

Because horrendous though the situation in Gaza etc is Israel is losing the strategic game.

Becoming over time an international pariah and losing the goodwill of many (up to now) supporters. It (Netanyahu) needs a war to survive and force the US to defend it.

Iran does not and doesn't need a war to increase its influence. I doubt it will fall into that trap although it will rattle a few sabres.
 
Because horrendous though the situation in Gaza etc is Israel is losing the strategic game.

Becoming over time an international pariah and losing the goodwill of many (up to now) supporters. It (Netanyahu) needs a war to survive and force the US to defend it.

Iran does not and doesn't need a war to increase its influence. I doubt it will fall into that trap although it will rattle a few sabres.
Israel is indeed losing from a strategic perspective and becoming a pariah but at the end of the day it has The Bomb and the USA. Push comes to shove they will just kill everyone and everyone is very aware of that.

Both tragic and obscene very much like Israel itself.
 
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