Israel-Iran conflicts - news and discussion

[teqniq]

Do we have it from any other reputable sources?

Reuters quotes the Axios piece. There's a bit in the Torygraph and there's this which speaks about an NYT piece but does not link to it. It also speculates that any attack would likely be after the US election whereas the Axios piece says before:

Iran's Khamenei gives order to prepare for an attack on Israel after US elections: Report

Three Iranian officials said that the decision was made after Khamenei was briefed about the extent of damage caused by the Israeli strikes on Iran last week

www.firstpost.com

 

[ska invita]

Do we have it from any other reputable sources?

its pretty likely tbh, though so far every retaliatory strike hasn't done much and is more face saving than anything

why full war hasn't broken out is an interesting thing....the 'provocation' from Israel is off the chart.... i can only speculate that its either that neighbouring countries calculate they haven nothing to gain and everything to lose from full war, but also it seems likely to me that they are massively outarmed and would simply lose

 

[Boris Sprinkler]

Yeah, I’m kind of bored of been told who my supposed enemy is, by the Begbie of the world stage.

 

[Smangus]

why full war hasn't broken out is an interesting thing....the 'provocation' from Israel is off the chart.... i can only speculate that its either that neighbouring countries calculate they haven nothing to gain and everything to lose from full war, but also it seems likely to me that they are massively outarmed and would simply lose

Because horrendous though the situation in Gaza etc is Israel is losing the strategic game.

Becoming over time an international pariah and losing the goodwill of many (up to now) supporters. It (Netanyahu) needs a war to survive and force the US to defend it.

Iran does not and doesn't need a war to increase its influence. I doubt it will fall into that trap although it will rattle a few sabres.

 

[ID47]

Because horrendous though the situation in Gaza etc is Israel is losing the strategic game.

Becoming over time an international pariah and losing the goodwill of many (up to now) supporters. It (Netanyahu) needs a war to survive and force the US to defend it.

Iran does not and doesn't need a war to increase its influence. I doubt it will fall into that trap although it will rattle a few sabres.

Israel is indeed losing from a strategic perspective and becoming a pariah but at the end of the day it has The Bomb and the USA. Push comes to shove they will just kill everyone and everyone is very aware of that.

Both tragic and obscene very much like Israel itself.

 

[_Russ_]

Another B52 and 5 X KC135 showing themselves heading east from the med today and a few other SIGINT assets nearing Israel.
USA is puffing its chest out, the twats

 

[_Russ_]

Reuters quotes the Axios piece. There's a bit in the Torygraph and there's this which speaks about an NYT piece but does not link to it. It also speculates that any attack would likely be after the US election whereas the Axios piece says before:

Iran's Khamenei gives order to prepare for an attack on Israel after US elections: Report

Three Iranian officials said that the decision was made after Khamenei was briefed about the extent of damage caused by the Israeli strikes on Iran last week

www.firstpost.com

..Not forgetting they state the original surce as "Israeli intelligence" well known of course both for finding shit out and making shit up

 

[krtek a houby]

..Not forgetting they state the original surce as "Israeli intelligence" well known of course both for finding shit out and making shit up

Sounds a bit like yourself

 

[Knotted]

I think this is a significant story.

Saudi crown prince says Israel committing 'genocide' in Gaza

Mohamed Bin Salman was speaking at the opening of a summit of Muslim and Arab leaders in Riyadh.

www.bbc.co.uk

A year ago the Arab regimes were normalising relations with Israel as part of alliance against Iran. Now the cold war with Iran is thawing and Israel is falling out with the gulf monarchies. Iran are playing their cards well.

 

[teqniq]

I think this is a significant story.

Saudi crown prince says Israel committing 'genocide' in Gaza

Mohamed Bin Salman was speaking at the opening of a summit of Muslim and Arab leaders in Riyadh.

www.bbc.co.uk

A year ago the Arab regimes were normalising relations with Israel as part of alliance against Iran. Now the cold war with Iran is thawing and Israel is falling out with the gulf monarchies. Iran are playing their cards well.

Yes, there's also this:

Saudi crown prince says Israel must not attack Iran

 

[teqniq]

What the fuck?

Brits will have to die defending Israel in war with Iran, says UK envoy to Tel-Aviv

 

[ska invita]

Because horrendous though the situation in Gaza etc is Israel is losing the strategic game.

Becoming over time an international pariah and

I just don't see it.... USA support is rock solid.... It's nothing to do with Good Will and everything to do with strategic geopolitical interests, which are not about to change.

As long as that remains the case the strategy is an effective one

 

[ska invita]

I just don't see it.... USA support is rock solid.... It's nothing to do with Good Will and everything to do with strategic geopolitical interests, which are not about to change.

As long as that remains the case the strategy is an effective one

In fact id go further and say many in US government actively support the policy of ethnic cleansing of Palestine and want to "get the job done".
That Netanyahu has wanted to do this his whole life is not a revelation to them - this isnt some shocking new development

 

[little_legs]

What the fuck?

Brits will have to die defending Israel in war with Iran, says UK envoy to Tel-Aviv

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Yes, please. I also support the UK sending troops to Iran. I am sure it will work out well for them.

 

[ska invita]

I just saw this classic clip reposted - general Wesley Clarke recounting (in shock) how he became aware that the US "Defence" Department planned to "take out" 7 countries, those being
Iraq
Syria
Lebanon
Libya
Somalia
Sudan
Iran



A simple before and after view of those countries now and twenty years ago tells its own story

Iran last on the list and always the prize they didn't quite dare go for yet.
The signs are there that Trump might just be the one to finish the list

 

[teqniq]

Meanwhile whilst David Miller won his unfair dismissal case does not mean to say he is bought and paid for by someone and quite possibly barking to boot:

 

[ska invita]

Meanwhile whilst David Miller won his unfair dismissal case does not mean to say he is bought and paid for by someone and quite possibly barking to boot:

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who is Dennis Miller? I googled and a cricketer came up

ETA I did Google David and he is a cricketer!

 

[teqniq]

who is Dennis Miller? I googled and a cricketer came up

Well it might be that you need to google David Miller.

Bristol University academic unfairly dismissed for anti-Zionist views

An academic was discriminated against when he was sacked for comments he made about Israel.

www.bbc.com

 

[ska invita]

Well it might be that you need to google David Miller.

Bristol University academic unfairly dismissed for anti-Zionist views

An academic was discriminated against when he was sacked for comments he made about Israel.

www.bbc.com

hah thanks sorry half asleep