Israel-Iran conflicts - news and discussion

[Pickman's model]

'The shift comes as Israeli officials aim to avoid escalating into a broader regional war, despite recent Iranian missile attacks.'

What some people seem to think has actually happened is that the US has declined to become actively involved in this and without their assistance they can't carry out strikes on nuclear facilities. Seems pretty likely to me, thank fuck:

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Why are some faces blanked put there but not others?

 

[teqniq]

Yeh and they agreed a ceasefire with nasrallah. Just before killing him. If I had to put on a bet, I'd say the zionists are trying to mess with Iranian minds

That, I agree is always the other possibility.

 

[agricola]

Why are some faces blanked put there but not others?

embarassment?

 

[teqniq]

Why are some faces blanked put there but not others?

i wondered that as well but I have no idea,

 

[Dogsauce]

That Twitter bloke is a real dodgy cunt btw, full-on putinist liar.

 

[teqniq]

Seriously??? Just one fucking phone call telling them no more toys and money should do the trick:

U.S. Frustrated by Israel’s Reluctance to Share Iran Retaliation Plans

 

[Pickman's model]

Seriously??? Just one fucking phone call telling them no more toys and money should do the trick:

U.S. Frustrated by Israel’s Reluctance to Share Iran Retaliation Plans

The longer this goes on the more the US looks either weaker or behind the whole clusterfuck. And while people in the middle east may be happy to chuck rockets at the near enemy for the time being, the far enemy will doubtless be targeted for its complicity at some point

 

[mojo pixy]

Why are some faces blanked put there but not others?

I'd guess because some of those people already have some kind of public profile so showing their faces doesn't matter, while others don't so showing their faces in media could open them up to threats they might not be prepared to face. Or their role is secret. Or maybe they asked to be blurred out.

I do think it's more 1 than 2 or even 3.

 

[_Russ_]

The longer this goes on the more the US looks either weaker or behind the whole clusterfuck. And while people in the middle east may be happy to chuck rockets at the near enemy for the time being, the far enemy will doubtless be targeted for its complicity at some point

Far Enemies

 

[Pickman's model]

Far Enemies

I thought a Walt like you would be familiar with the book 'the far enemy: why jihad went global'

 

[PTK]

I thought a Walt like you would be familiar with the book 'the far enemy: why jihad went global'

aka The Big Satan?

 

[Pickman's model]

aka The Big Satan?

Aye the great satan

 

[yield]

Esmail Qaani under guard and questioned as Iran probes Nasrallah killing
Head of Revolutionary Guard's Quds Force not wounded but swept up in major investigation into Iranian security breaches, sources tell Middle East Eye
10 October 2024

Sources close to Hezbollah told MEE that Qaani was in Lebanon and had been expected to attend the Shura Council meeting at Safieddine's invitation on the day of the air strike.

But Qaani apologised and backed out of the meeting shortly before it began, they said.

“Israel targeted the venue of this meeting with a raid that was bigger and harsher than the raid that targeted Nasrallah. Safieddine’s head was what was wanted, and no one else,” said a source close to Hezbollah.

“Qaani was invited to this meeting and under the current circumstances he should have been present.”

 

[yield]

Joe Biden could station combat troops in Israel for first time
President considering sending soldiers to operate anti-missile battery after latest volley from Iran
Telegraph. 12 October 2024 https://archive.ph/fWCu4

US policymakers were concerned by Iran’s ability on Oct 1 to break through the Iron Dome, Israel’s primary defence against missile attacks, by launching 180 ballistic missiles at the same time.

 

[teqniq]

Joe Biden could station combat troops in Israel for first time
President considering sending soldiers to operate anti-missile battery after latest volley from Iran
Telegraph. 12 October 2024 https://archive.ph/fWCu4

Yup, it's happening:

US will send a missile defense system and troops to run it to Israel to aid defense against Iran

The Pentagon says the United States will send a Terminal High Altitude Area Defense battery to Israel along with troops needed to operate it.

apnews.com

 

[_Russ_]

Illuminating though of course hardly surprising that the Pentagon feels it can publicise the supply of these purely defensive weapons to the poor embattled Israelis yet leaves it to others to mention the 2000lb bunker busters used to flatten the homes of civilians its been sending over throughout the conflict

 

[teqniq]

Here's some info I had no idea about and some analysis as to why this is happening:

Assad regime attacks Idlib while Israel invades the south of Syria

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e2a ppl in the comments don't seem to like this guy at all calling him 'ISIS' and similar. A little searching gives some more background:

Abdussamed Dagül = search for his name on this page:

Foreign jihadis playing a big role in Syria’s Idlib - Just World Educational

The thousands of highly motivated foreign fighters at all ranks of the fighting forces that control Syria’s Idlib enclave pose a particular challenge to policymakers worldwide trying to deal with the bitter fighting in the enclave and the humanitarian crisis that has resulted from it.

justworldeducational.org

which links to this article:

The Muhajir War Correspondent: Interview (II)

The region of Idlib province and its environs in northwest Syria continues to witness heavy fighting between rebel forces and Syrian government forces, with a huge displacement of people who have fled towards the border areas with Turkey. While the rebel

www.aymennjawad.org

 

[yield]

What leaked US assessment of Israeli plans to strike Iran shows
BBC. 21 October 2024
What do they tell us?

Taken together, the two documents are a classified US assessment of Israel’s preparations to hit targets in Iran, based on intelligence analysed on 15-16 October by the US National Geospatial-Intelligence Agency.

What features prominently is the mention of two Air Launched Ballistic Missile (ABLM) systems: Golden Horizon and Rocks.

Rocks is a long-range missile system made by the Israeli company Rafael and designed to hit a variety of targets both above and below ground. Golden Horizon is thought to refer to the Blue Sparrow missile system with a range of around 2,000km (1,240 miles).

The significance of this is that it would indicate that the Israeli Air Force is planning to carry out a similar but greatly expanded version of its ABLM attack on an Iranian radar site near Isfahan in April.

By launching these weapons from long range and far from Iran’s borders it would avoid the need for Israeli warplanes to overfly certain countries in the region like Jordan.

The documents also report no sign of any preparations by Israel to activate its nuclear deterrent.

At the request of Israel, the US government never publicly acknowledges that its close ally Israel even possesses nuclear weapons, so this has caused some embarrassment in Washington.

More tit for tat & escalation.

 

[yield]

Saudi Arabia and Iran hold military exercises in Sea of Oman as region awaits Israeli strikes
23 October 2024

Saudi Arabia held military exercises with Iran and other countries recently in the Sea of Oman, the Saudi defence ministry spokesman said in a statement to AFP on Wednesday.

"The Royal Saudi Naval Forces had recently concluded a joint naval exercise with the Iranian Naval Forces alongside other countries in the Sea of Oman," Saudi Brigadier General Turki al-Malki, said.

The exercises show how far Gulf states are going to distance themselves from Israel, as the region waits for a potential Israeli strike on Iran.

Iran and Saudi Arabia have patched up bitter relations in recent years.

 

[PTK]

What leaked US assessment of Israeli plans to strike Iran shows
BBC. 21 October 2024
What do they tell us?




More tit for tat & escalation.

"The documents also report no sign of any preparations by Israel to activate its nuclear deterrent. "
Of course. If it is a "deterrent", then it would cease to be one if it was used.

 

[teqniq]

It would appear that Israel has carried out strikes in Iran tonight:

 

[Everything Goes]

Israel confirm attack on Iran, explosions also reported in Syria.

Iran says it has right to defend itself after Israeli strike kills soldiers

Israel's military says it completed "precise strikes on military targets", weeks after Iran's ballistic missile attack on Israel.

www.bbc.co.uk

 

[PTK]

What a wonderful world.

 

[Bingoman]

Israel confirm attack on Iran, explosions also reported in Syria.

Iran says it has right to defend itself after Israeli strike kills soldiers

Israel's military says it completed "precise strikes on military targets", weeks after Iran's ballistic missile attack on Israel.

www.bbc.co.uk

Have Israel attacked Syria as well then, if so nothing reporting on the BBC or sky atm?

 

[Protag]

Bombs away! Maybe the new solution is just to kill anyone, because stealing land in peace is an oxymoron. Remember it's justified because Hitler. Genocide Joe might generate propaganda that he is against it, for the suckers.

 

[ID47]

Have Israel attacked Syria as well then, if so nothing reporting on the BBC or sky atm?

Not sure, this site used to be fairly up to date but very biased from an anti Russian perspective. Map of Syrian Civil War - Syria news and incidents today - syria.liveuamap.com

 

[Everything Goes]

Have Israel attacked Syria as well then, if so nothing reporting on the BBC or sky atm?

Sky News reported strikes on Syria at 1:39am.

 

[ska invita]

THe propagnda is strong todahy ... the british press this morning have been given their hymn sheets and with a deadpan face are calling these "reprisal attacks"
BBC

TELEGRAPH

GUARDIAN


THE TIMES



FT


WELL DONE TO THE DAILY MAIL WHO CORRECTLY PUT SOME QUOTE MARKS AROUND IT AT LEAST



AND SKY NEWS THE ONLY ONE WO RESISTED IT FROM WHAT I CAN SEE

 

[teqniq]

Iran appears to intend a response:

Iran preparing major retaliatory strike from Iraq within days, Israeli intel suggests

 

[Boris Sprinkler]

Do we have it from any other reputable sources?