Hamas/Israel conflict: news and discussion

[mojo pixy]

They may get their news from wireless or TV and it wasn't covered or in my experience a brief mention as part of a larger story. It could be a pre-held assumption correct or otherwise. It may not be antisemitism. You were right to raise it though hence my initial response.

Perhaps there is an issue around prominence? You searched for it and found it and I'm sure there are reports on lots of things you could find if you search for it you wouldn't see otherwise. I'm not saying that's definitely the case here. I subscribe to a few daily newsletters. The BBC one doesn't mention the West Bank and hasn't for a few days. It may do in some of the links given but not in the letter, headlines or link titles. The Guardian by contrast had mentioned it and today made it the focus of its Today in Focus newsletter. The BBC does currently have a story on it on its News homepage though. It is quite a good article on the IDF operation, though not settler violence, if you read the whole thing. If you only read the headline or to the second picture it gives a very one sided view of the situation. An issue of framing I'd argue. This isn't because of Jews running the media. If they were they'd be doing a shit job as one of the articles you posted that I've read is framed quite differently. How prominent on the site it was I don't know. It is currently a couple pages back on the World subheading but it is old news. I'd suggest that sometimes an Israeli viewpoint is favoured by parts of the media because they are an ally rather than because of some Jewish influence.

Could be. It doesn't really explain the posting of something that was already wrong at the time, could have been checked, and looks like a declaration from an assumption (because it certainly wasn't a declaration from facts)

This isn't about 'what was not reported', or what was soft-soaped, spun or minimised. The reports are there, they were already there. The fact that for some here I'm the bad guy (the fact that some posters apparently can't help focussing on me rather than what I'm actually posting) is telling as fuck!

Accusations? We got 'em, come n get 'em while they hawt

 

[teqniq]

I think the premise of this article may well be right. The amount of times I have seen Palestinians posting on social media 'we will not forgive, we will not forget' is considerable:

Gaza ceasefire may hold, but a new generation is radicalised

Hamas now has a long-term flow of loyal supporters after so many Palestinians experienced death and devastation

www.opendemocracy.net

 

[Pickman's model]

I think the premise of this article may well be right. The amount of times I have seen Palestinians posting on social media 'we will not forgive, we will not forget' is considerable:

Gaza ceasefire may hold, but a new generation is radicalised

Hamas now has a long-term flow of loyal supporters after so many Palestinians experienced death and devastation

www.opendemocracy.net

i think it's wrong though to limit the impact to simply palestinians. many thousands of people in the middle east and further afield will have been radicalised by this, and actions against israeli interests will also, i think, take place far from palestine.

 

[teqniq]

i think it's wrong though to limit the impact to simply palestinians. many thousands of people in the middle east and further afield will have been radicalised by this, and actions against israeli interests will also, i think, take place far from palestine.

Indeed so. I thought to add to the post I will not forgive or forget and I know other people who feel the same way so I am adding it here. E2a In all this neither will I forgive or forget the actions and inactions of the last Tory government and the present Labour one. Also now I am seeing on social media that some sort of deal may have been done between Netanyahu and Smotritch over annexation of the West Bank. If true it would explain why he did not resign alongside Ben-Gvir.

 

[Gramsci]

I actually accused someone of posting something that was obviously wrong and would have been easy to check in a few seconds. I speculated as to what the motivation for that kind of obvious mis-post could be. So far the usual suspects have popped up to tell me I'm wrong, that my mind is twisted, I'm posting nonsense, and that I should take it back.

We're doing great today on the left guys.

This is nothing to do with the left or the usual suspects.

You pointed out a factually incorrect post.

I pointed out that said poster had made no reference to Jews controlling media. Which is factually correct post by me. Unless you can prove otherwise.

So far you haven't

 

[Gramsci]

I think the premise of this article may well be right. The amount of times I have seen Palestinians posting on social media 'we will not forgive, we will not forget' is considerable:

Gaza ceasefire may hold, but a new generation is radicalised

Hamas now has a long-term flow of loyal supporters after so many Palestinians experienced death and devastation

www.opendemocracy.net

What the article doesn't go into is PA also attacking/ attempting to arrest members of Jenin Brigades. Who comprise local Palestinians from variety of political backgrounds in West Bank.

Abbas has already been saying that PA wants to run Gaza. Hamas made a show of force when hostages were handed over. As article says it appears that Hamas are far from being defeated.

What I'm saying is that there is already fighting between different Palestinian factions for who will come out on top. A potential for limited civil war.

With PA willing to work with Israel security forces to suppress Jenin Brigades.

 

[oryx]

I think you should withdraw that accusation.

So do I, it would be a good idea.

Will respond in full later.

 

[tim]

Your accusing a poster of anti semitism with no evidence. I think you should withdraw that accusation.

You accused me of being Hasbara without any evidence. You have never withdrawn that accusation.

You are disingenuous.

Dont tell me what is realistic.

I tell you what your an apologist for Zionism who pretends to be oh so realistic.

TBH Im wondering if your some kind of Hasbara bot