Hamas/Israel conflict: news and discussion

[Ax^]

Given the way this is going might a temp forum be an idea or do we want to keep all the unhappiness on just one thread?

it world politics don't see the reason to have a forum unless other threads appear

 

[Ax^]

More incursions happening now according to Israeli reports on Al-Jazeera. By air.

From Lebanon

para guilders and the take shelter report has been rescinded

 

[Ax^]

Hmm... I'll stay away then.

hmm think most people who would attend the demos are more than likely at one

seeming as it the fash that start the Nazi shit don't see many turning up at pro Palestine demo with a bunch lefties in attendance. wrong crowd



last one I was at in Dublin , cannie speak for London was not fash orientated

 

[planetgeli]

para guilders and the take shelter report has been rescinded

Yep. Heightened paranoia or...something.

 

[TopCat]

hmm think most people who would attend the demos are more than likely at one

seeming as it the fash that start the Nazi shit don't see many turning up at pro Palestine demo with a bunch lefties in attendance. wrong crowd



last one I was at in Dublin , cannie speak for London was not fash orientated

It’s more for me not going on any March or demo that has organised chanting of allah Akbar

 

[Pickman's model]

If I can still edit the first post as OP I can retitle this as the "general" thread so offshoots can be created.

report the op and suggest the change you want to make, let the mods take the strain

 

[Cid]

This might trigger The39thStep a bit, but the liveuamap does have an Israel-Palestine section if you want to er... Be far too up-to-date. And not particularly reliable.

Most recent on the northern attacks possibility (from twitter of Times of Israel military correspondent):

IDF spokesman Rear Adm. Daniel Hagari says there is no security incident in northern Israel, military is investigating after the drone alerts sounded in northern Israel.

e2a: also Kann news (twitter)

The fear of aircraft infiltration from the Lebanese border has been ruled out

 

[teqniq]

This appears tp be not on at all, police throwing their weight about:

 

[Ax^]

bootlicking cops testing, following bravermans rhetoric

 

[planetgeli]

Don't like thread title. Hamas/Israel was right, not Gaza/Israel.

 

[Pickman's model]

I note that around 1,100 Palestinians have been killed and about 1,200 Israelis. But there have also been reports of 1,500 hamas fighters killed. Why haven't they been put into the overall stats?

 

[Pickman's model]

Don't like thread title. Hamas/Israel was right, not Gaza/Israel.

I think we might have moved beyond that

 

[PR1Berske]

Don't like thread title. Hamas/Israel was right, not Gaza/Israel.

Noted.

 

[tim]

Anyway, this afternoon Chris Williamson, the former Blairite MP who voted to bomb Iraq and impose a No-fly zone over Libya has popped up on Iranian PressTV to accuse Israelis of "Playing the victim". He is accompanied by his usual co-presenter David Miller who was sacked by "Bristol University at "the behest of the Zionist lobby". David Miller may intimidate Jewish students, but he is not an antiSemite. They have some retired diploturd called Peter Ford in the show who waffles about Jews "milking the Holocaust".

They're very upset because about a month ago some Israeli at the UN waived a banner at President Raeisi of Iran. Back in 1988 Raeisi organised the murder of thousands of Communists and Socialists but these Quislings won't be investigating that in a hurry.

Harry the bastards!

 

[Pickman's model]

This appears tp be not on at all, police throwing their weight about:

And many of them have quite a bit of weight to throw about

 

[cesare]

Here's a reminder about donations ( thanks Johnny Vodka for the link) . Pity we couldn't make a board wide contribution really

Delivering medical care to Palestinians living under occupation and as refugees in the Palestinian Territories and in Lebanon.

Help us get urgent medical supplies into the hands of Palestinians in need.

www.map.org.uk

The other half has been doing this for the past 10ish years but me too now.

 

[cesare]

Don't think so, no. I have no problem giving my name and address really. I give it out pretty regularly to dodgier people than that charity.

I was able to.

 

[teqniq]

The truth is stranger than fiction:


I decided to fact-check the last tweet and lo and behold:

https://abtc.ng/ismail-haniyeh-siblings-meet-his-3-sisters/

 

[Artaxerxes]

Wonder how many times we'll have to listen to Cleverly bang on about "personally coming under fire..."

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This is going to be like my brothers anecdote of hearing gunfire in the distance on kibbutz morphing into personally leading the disparate uni students into cover and reducing a small dog over the next twenty years

 

[Knotted]

The truth is stranger than fiction:
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I decided to fact-check the last tweet and lo and behold:

https://abtc.ng/ismail-haniyeh-siblings-meet-his-3-sisters/

That's a really shitty line of attack against Ismail Haniyeh or anyone. Why haven't his sisters ethnically cleansed themselves?

 

[CH1]

Anyway, this afternoon Chris Williamson, the former Blairite MP who voted to bomb Iraq and impose a No-fly zone over Libya has popped up on Iranian PressTV to accuse Israelis of "Playing the victim". He is accompanied by his usual co-presenter David Miller who was sacked by "Bristol University at "the behest of the Zionist lobby". David Miller may intimidate Jewish students, but he is not an antiSemite. They have some retired diploturd called Peter Ford in the show who waffles about Jews "milking the Holocaust".

They're very upset because about a month ago some Israeli at the UN waived a banner at President Raeisi of Iran. Back in 1988 Raeisi organised the murder of thousands of Communists and Socialists but these Quislings won't be investigating that in a hurry.

Harry the bastards!

Couldn't believe he was a Blairite - but I see it's true Chris Williamson: from Blairite to isolated Labour outsider

Personally I've never forgiven his hate camplaign against much-loved Streatham MP Chukka Umuna. I guess if Starmer manages to form a credible government he will have demonstrated he can walk on water with fish like Williamson still in the Labour pond.
Williamson and George Galloway were both regulars on RT (Russia Today) and Press TV. His presenting skills on RT were sub zero.

 

[Johnny Vodka]

More excellent (but distressing) reporting from channel 4 news tonight. What a consistently impressive programme.

 

[The39thStep]

Couldn't believe he was a Blairite - but I see it's true Chris Williamson: from Blairite to isolated Labour outsider

Personally I've never forgiven his hate camplaign against much-loved Streatham MP Chukka Umuna. I guess if Starmer manages to form a credible government he will have demonstrated he can walk on water with fish like Williamson still in the Labour pond.
Williamson and George Galloway were both regulars on RT (Russia Today) and Press TV. His presenting skills on RT were sub zero.

Tell me a bit too more about the much loved Streatham MP Chukka Umuna

 

[brogdale]

Just in case we'd forgotten over the last few hours....here's the first of, no doubt many reminders, from brave Sir James...

 

[petee]

Tuberville won’t bend on military blockade amid Israel crisis

After Hamas attacked Israel, Senate Democrats said it was past time for several top-level military nominees to be approved.

www.politico.com

It's this nutter all about abortion apparently

he's also concerned about the woke.

Tommy Tuberville calls U.S. military leaders 'woke' for opposing him

The Army, Navy and Air Force secretaries have accused Tuberville of "putting national security at risk" by blocking military promotions.

www.newsweek.com

 

[Ax^]

hmmm where is Phildywr to say no one want the USA to return to 1950s

 

[Humberto]

This might trigger The39thStep a bit, but the liveuamap does have an Israel-Palestine section if you want to er... Be far too up-to-date. And not particularly reliable.

Most recent on the northern attacks possibility (from twitter of Times of Israel military correspondent):



e2a: also Kann news (twitter)

Does seem to be something in it.

Lebanon: Israel shells militant targets across border

Israel's military said the Lebanese movement Hezbollah fired anti-tank missiles across the border.

www.bbc.co.uk

Israel bombs south Lebanon after Hezbollah rocket fire

Israeli shelling hit southern Lebanese towns on Wednesday in response to a fresh rocket attack by powerful armed group Hezbollah, as cross-border violence extended into a fourth day.

www.reuters.com

 

[CNT36]

Just in case we'd forgotten over the last few hours....here's the first of, no doubt many reminders, from brave Sir James...

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He off to Khan Younis next?

 

[petee]

fwiw here is a report on the demo in New York

Pro-Palestinian rally met by Israel supporters in Midtown as Hochul slams ‘abhorrent’ demonstration after Hamas attack

New York City Democratic Socialists of America are holding a pro-Palestinian rally in Times Square following an attack on Israel by Islamist extremists — with Gov. Kathy Hochul calling it &#8…

nypost.com

Somebody presented an image of a swastica on a phone. Maybe there was some other stuff not reported on...

careful, murdoch press.

 

[Elpenor]

hmmm where is Phildywr to say no one want the USA to return to 1950s

Thankfully he’s MIA since Saturday