Hamas/Israel conflict: news and discussion
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Rob Ray
Weight is meaningless
But she's not lying (or indeed talking - an actual real life criticism you could have made) about the reasons why the rallies are happening, she's condemning the behaviour of some of the people at the rallies. And of course some of the people at those rallies will be bloodthisty arseholes/anti-Semites - part of the fuckup in Palestine solidarity over recent years has been indulging these people. I mean ffs Corbyn is bright enough to note that "the horrific attacks on civilians in Israel were deplorable" while condemning Israel's response, are you really less capable than that?
Perhaps they should be grateful to you for whatever this has been.
Maybe you're right but the Guardian report she condemned the rally. I don't actually care enough to find out if the Guardian are misreporting, I don't even follow American politics.
tim
EXPLODED TIM! (Help me!!!)
I can't remember him justifying any war crime. Could you clarify?
emanymton
A cat politely sat on the flaming gardener.
This seems to be her words.
“The bigotry and callousness expressed in Times Square on Sunday were unacceptable and harmful in this devastating moment,"
Up to you to decide if she means the rally as a whole or just some people there.
Serge Forward
Just enjoyin' my coffee.
I've generally given Palestine demos a swerve as I never much fancy a punch up with some anti-semitic cunt (at least, not at my age with my dodgy health). Out of interest, do any of these 'usual' displays of anti-semitism get challenged - i.e. twatted?
I've been on only one or two many years ago and never actually seen it.
Rob Ray
Weight is meaningless
The send them roses bit is a weaselly response eh - hard to say "the people of Gaza are not our enemy" when you're feigning upset to avoid answering a question on whether it's a good idea to bomb them indiscriminately.
Serge Forward
Just enjoyin' my coffee.
Hmm... I'll stay away then.
Spymaster
Plastic Paddy
An IDF Colonel is not about to broadcast on SM that he thinks they're indiscriminately bombing Gaza.
fwiw here is a report on the demo in New York
nypost.com
Somebody presented an image of a swastica on a phone. Maybe there was some other stuff not reported on...
Pro-Palestinian rally met by Israel supporters in Midtown as Hochul slams ‘abhorrent’ demonstration after Hamas attack
New York City Democratic Socialists of America are holding a pro-Palestinian rally in Times Square following an attack on Israel by Islamist extremists — with Gov. Kathy Hochul calling it …
nypost.com
Somebody presented an image of a swastica on a phone. Maybe there was some other stuff not reported on...
Karl Masks
Birds Angel Delight
The truth cannot keep up with the propaganda machine at work here. The claim about babies beheaded is at lightspeed despite no confirmation
Rob Ray
Weight is meaningless
I'd be wary of calling it a machine tbh, a lot of this stuff is generated purely through mass participation these days. The most recent CNN report nails down the precise sources behind the claims about beheaded babies though fwiw.
likesfish
You can't park here sir
I'm sure thats a comfort to the thousand odd civilians you've already killed
The IDF makes more effort to avoid collateral than any other military but it's Gaza nobody's going to notice when you bomb office blocks in a built up area. Hamas response to asking them not to fire rocket from outside your house is going to be murderous not that really matters when the IDF use counter battery fire
. Hamas as sewn the storm and left the poor sods in Gaza to reapply the whirlwind. I'm sure their be glad the surviviours will be more didicated to fighting the great satan
tim
EXPLODED TIM! (Help me!!!)
Yes, I read that after I'd posted.
Idris2002
canadian girlfriend
And now it's the West Bank!
www.reuters.com
Not much detail in that reuters report. It seems to imply that three Palestinian civilians were killed in an unprovoked (well there's nothing in the report to suggest provocation) by settlers. . . and the IDF?
If it's for real that serving IDF have participated in what is basically a lynching of random Palestinians, well things just took another turn for the worse.
Three Palestinians killed by Israeli forces, settlers in West Bank - agency
Three Palestinians were killed by gunfire from Israeli forces and settlers in Qusra village near the West Bank city of Nablus on Wednesday, the Palestinian official news agency said.
Not much detail in that reuters report. It seems to imply that three Palestinian civilians were killed in an unprovoked (well there's nothing in the report to suggest provocation) by settlers. . . and the IDF?
If it's for real that serving IDF have participated in what is basically a lynching of random Palestinians, well things just took another turn for the worse.
Yuwipi Woman
Whack-A-Mole Queen
I don't think Neo-Nazis have much influence with academics. What I do see as a current student, is that the emphasis on inclusion and diversity has expanded the base that professors are drawn from. I've had several instructors who were either of middle eastern origin or background. There's also a rising number of African American teaching staff. Some African Americans have a jaundiced view of Jews and do not trust that community. I'm not certain if this is because of their tendency toward Southern versions of Christianity, which sees Jews as "Christ killers," or if it stems from tension between Jewish business owners, who run shops in African American areas, and their African American customer base. While these professors don't overtly impart political opinions, they do have leanings that are visible to their students. So they're exposed a variety of opinions on Israel, more than I was as a undergrad in the 80s.
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belboid
Exasperated, not angry.
that's just a pretty normal Wednesday
If you cut off the water supply, if you cut off electricity so hospitals can no longer function, when you've cut off all aid, any conversation about targeting Hamas not civilians is moot. You can't confuse people with fog of war arguments when you've done that.
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
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Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
Tbh all the chancelleries of Europe, and a fair few beyond, are veratically challenged, I think I'd place as much weight on sunak's word or shammer's as I would their Russian counterparts
planetgeli
There's no future in England's dreaming
More incursions happening now according to Israeli reports on Al-Jazeera. By air.
From Lebanon
EDIT. Now denied/ruled out by the army. The reports originated from the Head of the Regional council. Who is now saying...nothing.
From Lebanon
EDIT. Now denied/ruled out by the army. The reports originated from the Head of the Regional council. Who is now saying...nothing.
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Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
Given the way this is going might a temp forum be an idea or do we want to keep all the unhappiness on just one thread?
PR1Berske
Alligator in chains by the park gates.
If I can still edit the first post as OP I can retitle this as the "general" thread so offshoots can be created.
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