Hamas/Israel conflict: news and discussion
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Gramsci
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To nobody's surprise:
Israel has yet to provide evidence of Unrwa staff terrorist links, Colonna report says
Exclusive: review finds government yet to substantiate claims UN relief agency staff have ties to Hamas or Islamic Jihadwww.theguardian.com
So now an independent investigation has found that Israel made a bunch of unsubstantiated accusations hamstringing the region's most important aid body at precisely the moment the IDF was physically denying aid into the region, no doubt there will be repercussions for this deliberate and successful effort to sabotage food supplies to starving civilians? I won't hold my breath for either that or a reversal of the US funding ban.
Been following some of this. The independent reports as you say found that State of Israel has been unable to provide the proper evidence. Also appears that UNRWA routinely supplied Israel state list of new people.
I was just watching Al Jazeera today and they had someone from UNRWA calmly discussing the findings of the reports. Had to turn up off as my blood pressure was rising. Not the fault of UNRWA but the way Israeli State goes on.
What does not get brought up in these news reports is why a UN refugee organisation is still at work after all these years (1948 onwards).
State of Israel got cost free ethnic cleansing as international community picked up the tab, UNRWA. Now they are throwing their toys out the pram and want UNRWA abolished. Not only got a handout Israeli state now want to dictate to international community what kind of handout they should get.
What a load of old bollocks.
The state of Israel has been having a go at UNRWA for years.
IMO its main crime has been to provide services and employment that has helped to sustain a Palestinian community.
Instead of finally Palestinians going UNRWA has been doing their job well in eyes of State of Israel. And helping sustain Palestinians.
In that sense its logical for State of Israel to end up opposing UNRWA. Helping to support Palestinian society is in sense resisting erasure of Palestinian society. So UNRWA should be got rid of.
What gets me is that Western governments like mine support Israel over this.
teqniq
DisMembered
This looks like it's turning into a shitshow:
www.theguardian.com
‘Smokescreen’: officials voice concern over US plans for Gaza aid pier
Fears Israel is influencing location of dock away from the north, where famine threat is most severe
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
It's been a shitshow for months, but this is how the zionists want it. Far easier to kill large numbers - scores if not hundreds of thousands - with hunger than with bombs or gunsThis looks like it's turning into a shitshow:
‘Smokescreen’: officials voice concern over US plans for Gaza aid pier
Fears Israel is influencing location of dock away from the north, where famine threat is most severe
krtek a houby
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You can't help yourself, can you?
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A reminder just in case anyone has any doubts about the poster
PTK
Paul Kegan
We need an exodus from Zionism - Naomi Klein
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We need an exodus from Zionism | Naomi Klein
This Passover, we don’t need or want the false idol of Zionism. We want freedom from the project that commits genocide in our name
barlimo
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I'm always surprised by the actions of a long oppressed people who do much the same thing to their fellowmen. What's more these oppressors are
forever craving sympathy for the historical wrongs done to them.
Idris2002
canadian girlfriend
I was talking to some people last night who said the community in North America is big, successful and secure. For those people, these views were a bit of a luxury only those in North America can afford.We need an exodus from Zionism - Naomi Klein
We need an exodus from Zionism | Naomi Klein
This Passover, we don’t need or want the false idol of Zionism. We want freedom from the project that commits genocide in our name
Balbi
Hey, Dean Yager!
I'm not sure calling upon your own government to stop funding and arming a genocide counts as an affordable luxury tbh.
Neither is attempts to restore the idea that Judaism isn't reliant on Zionism to continue to exist. Before the shoah, Zionism was seen as a slightly weird obsessive viewpoint compared to the wider diaspora community.
Now it's so embedded you've got the US President saying that without Israel no Jew on the planet would be secure, which is pretty wild considering conflating all Jews with Israel is viewed as an antisemitic trope by many.
The luxury is having Zionism funded and armed and given protection from consequence that few other states have, allowing insane statements like the ones made by the Israeli Government about how they're absolutely wiping Gaza off the map to set an example to everyone.
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
A simple no would have been better, no need for the 12" extended dance mix
Gramsci
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Can you please stop doing this. Your interventions on this thread aren't helpful.
Gramsci
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Idris2002
canadian girlfriend
Some people I know. I don't spend all my time online, you know.
teqniq
DisMembered
I wish them well. Due to set sail 26/04/24:
www.counterpunch.org
Will the Freedom Flotilla Sail to Gaza?
From the U.S., there are about 35 participants. Leading the group, and key to the international coalition, is 77-year-old retired U.S. Army colonel and State Department diplomat Ann Wright. After quitting the State Department in protest over the U.S. invasion of Iraq, Wright has put her...
www.counterpunch.org
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Gramsci
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Neither do I
Idris2002
canadian girlfriend
He needs to be fukcing banned
agricola
a genuine importer of owls
Apparently a country operating police stations in other countries is now not, in fact, a bad thing:
www.middleeasteye.net
Ben Gvir asks police to 'protect Jewish communities outside of Israel'
Far-right minister wants emergency security response squads to aid Jewish people and institutions around the world
www.middleeasteye.net
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Merry Xmas!
Reckon China got there firstApparently a country operating police stations in other countries is now not, in fact, a bad thing:
Ben Gvir asks police to 'protect Jewish communities outside of Israel'
Far-right minister wants emergency security response squads to aid Jewish people and institutions around the world
Gramsci
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Apparently a country operating police stations in other countries is now not, in fact, a bad thing:
Ben Gvir asks police to 'protect Jewish communities outside of Israel'
Far-right minister wants emergency security response squads to aid Jewish people and institutions around the world
Biden says:
This from the man who has the levers of power to halt the IDF/ Israeli governments attack on Gaza and thousands of civilian deaths. He is the one who is guilty of silence and complicity. Big time
But he would rather attack peaceful protest by US students as being anti Semitic.
I admire the students for their bravery. It worse their than here.
I'm a bit fed up with way anyone who actively protests against what is happening in Gaza and wants a just deal for Palestinians is either labelled anti Semitic or helping to make a situation where anti semitism can gain ground.
I think imo the second is worse as its insidious and more likely to work.
I've no time for either now. Thankfully it hasn't really worked in UK. Much worse in US
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