Hamas/Israel conflict: news and discussion

[Cid]

The air drop thing is just... the peak of this upside down shit. How do they maintain the cognitive dissonance around that?

 

[lazythursday]

Re boycotts: someone has been helpfully replacing price tags with boycott israel tags on Sabra brand of hummus in my local Tesco. But I think it's probably better to move as many as you can out of the fridge and deposit behind some slow-moving goods on another aisle.

 

[ddraig]

barcodes used to end in 0729? for Israeli goods but think that changed as people were boycotting

Aladdin

Boycott Israeli Goods & Services - Ireland Palestine Solidarity Campaign

Individual consumers can show their opposition to Israel’s Apartheid policies against the Palestinian people and violations of international law by participating in a consumer boycott of Israeli goods and services. A boycott can also put pressure on companies whose exports are linked to some of...

www.ipsc.ie

 

[Aladdin]

barcodes used to end in 0729? for Israeli goods but think that changed as people were boycotting

Aladdin

Boycott Israeli Goods & Services - Ireland Palestine Solidarity Campaign

Individual consumers can show their opposition to Israel’s Apartheid policies against the Palestinian people and violations of international law by participating in a consumer boycott of Israeli goods and services. A boycott can also put pressure on companies whose exports are linked to some of...

www.ipsc.ie

Thanks for this

 

[Aladdin]

 

[little_legs]

I’m about to go insane with this shit. Air-dropping food into Gaza whilst simultaneously sending weapons to Israel to carry out the destruction that has led to this situation in the first place. Make it make sense please!

See, we're not genocide enablers, we just sent five tons of cheerios to Khan Younes. The depravity just keeps getting deeper.

 

[Dogsauce]

not at all. as would be obvious to anyone with half the intellect of a woodlouse. how can western governments back international law in ukraine but not wr2 the zionist entity? there's a problem which has made western countries look less than sparkly clean to the global south.

It’s an absolute gift to Russia and their BRICS project. Deplete arms shipments to Ukraine, fracture left opposition to their favourite authoritarian regimes in Europe, raise the stock of Iran and their proxies, and highlight the moral hypocrisy of the west at the same time. Like a carefully laid trap.

 

[Knotted]

Reported by CNN. Anaesthetics, oxygen cylinders, water filtration systems and much else besides banned by Israel into Gaza.

https://www.cnn.com/2024/03/01/middleeast/gaza-aid-israel-restrictions-investigation-intl-cmd/index.html

 

[ska invita]

The air drop thing is just... the peak of this upside down shit. How do they maintain the cognitive dissonance around that?

 

[fieryjack]

All very reminiscent of a bit from Chris Morris' 9/11 piece "Terror's March Backwards" in the guardian
"19th: Blair announces support for the US intention to bomb during Ramadan but confirms that out of respect for Islam, all food parcels dropped during this period will be empty"

 

[teqniq]

United Nations: Establish International Protection Force in Gaza

(New York, March 2, 2024) – The United Nations Security Council (UNSC) should act urgently to establish an international protection force to safeguard Palestinian civilians and ensure the unobstructed delivery of humanitarian aid in Gaza as a last-ditch attempt to avert imminent starvation...

dawnmena.org

If this is bought before the security council the US will of course use it's veto. The authors of this press release recognise this and suggest the following:

 

[Knotted]

This interview with Michael Fahkri, the UN special rapporteur on the right to food, is worth watching for an assessment of the conditions in Gaza and Israel's legal culpability.

 

[Kid_Eternity]

The air drop thing is just... the peak of this upside down shit. How do they maintain the cognitive dissonance around that?

It’s absolutely idiotic, in humanitarian aid delivery air drops are literally the worst way of running an operation and only used in exceptional last resort situations…

 

[Pickman's model]

All very reminiscent of a bit from Chris Morris' 9/11 piece "Terror's March Backwards" in the guardian
"19th: Blair announces support for the US intention to bomb during Ramadan but confirms that out of respect for Islam, all food parcels dropped during this period will be empty"

yeh but those of us with longer memories will recall bill hicks talking about using smart technology to deliver food back in 1992

 

[Pickman's model]

It’s absolutely idiotic, in humanitarian aid delivery air drops are literally the worst way of running an operation and only used in exceptional last resort situations…

isn't this an exceptional last resort situation?

 

[Cid]

Avoiding responsibility by airdropping an insignificant amount of aid vs actually taking a position and enabling flow of aid via exponentially more efficient means.

 

[magneze]

Aren't the ICJ meant to be saying something soon? A month on from the initial judgement?

 

[Kid_Eternity]

Avoiding responsibility by airdropping an insignificant amount of aid vs actually taking a position and enabling flow of aid via exponentially more efficient means.

 

[SpookyFrank]

isn't this an exceptional last resort situation?

Only because they skipped the first resort, namely stop enabling Israel's assault on Gaza.

 

[Boris Sprinkler]

Yeah there’s always the option of not being cunts to your fellow humans.

 

[Sasaferrato]

George Galloway described Hamas as 'The elected government of Gaza'.

Am I wrong in thinking that Hamas were elected in 2006, but there have been no elections since then?

I appreciate that they are the de facto government, but are they genuinely an elected government? Functionally, it makes no odds, but my knowledge of the politics of the area is slim, and the Wiki response to 'Did the people of Gaza elect Hamas' is more than a tad complicated.

 

[Humberto]

Before the start of the Israeli government's onslaught you wouldn't have much chance in the way of electing an alternative and were in for trouble if you tried.

 

[nino_savatte]

The air drop thing is just... the peak of this upside down shit. How do they maintain the cognitive dissonance around that?

It's little more than a PR gimmick. Fuck Israel and its allies.

 

[nino_savatte]

George Galloway described Hamas as 'The elected government of Gaza'.

Am I wrong in thinking that Hamas were elected in 2006, but there have been no elections since then?

I appreciate that they are the de facto government, but are they genuinely an elected government? Functionally, it makes no odds, but my knowledge of the politics of the area is slim, and the Wiki response to 'Did the people of Gaza elect Hamas' is more than a tad complicated.

It's the same in the West Bank, no? Have you heard of the Fatah-Hamas conflict?

 

[Boris Sprinkler]

Yanis coming with some facts about EU complicity.

 

[frogwoman]

Social Media Posts Show Off Blindfolded and Bound Palestinian Detainees - bellingcat

The photos of bound and blindfolded Palestinian detainees have prompted a review by the IDF.

www.bellingcat.com

 

[zahir]

Survivors of Gaza aid convoy massacre describe ‘indiscriminate’ Israeli fire

Palestinian eyewitnesses say troops shot directly at a starving crowd trying to get flour for their families, killing and wounding many in the mayhem.

www.972mag.com

 

[Aladdin]

 

[Gramsci]

Cameron describes talks with Israeli minister over Gaza as ‘tough but necessary’

UK foreign secretary repeated request to Benny Gantz for Israel to allow delivery of more aid refrain from a full-scale assault on Rafah

www.theguardian.com

Cameron is going to give Israel another talking to. His patience is wearing thin.

Doesn't say what he will do when he loses his patience.

Nothing imo.

Also Israel are pushing ahead with yet more illegal settlement building in West Bank.

Israel approves plans for 3,400 new settler homes - BBC News

An Israeli minister has said the construction is a response to a recent deadly Palestinian attack.

www-bbc-co-uk.cdn.ampproject.org

Settlement building has been going on since 67 occupation started.

It's been creating a situation where a real two state solution is no longer viable.

And most settlement building is official like these new planned houses. Israel as occupying power shouldn't be doing this.

 

[ska invita]

UK up to it's bloody neck as per

UK refuses to disclose what Israeli military planes landing in Britain have onboard

The government is withholding all information about the nine Israeli military jets that have landed in the UK since the bombing of Gaza began, raising suspicions about further British complicity in war crimes.

www.declassifieduk.org