Bingoman
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No Palestinian state for for the forseeable future thanks to the Knesset
Hamas/Israel conflict: news and discussion
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Labour Party intimidating the speaker. Like the fucking mafia.
belboid
Exasperated, not angry.
Just put that on the Starmer thread. Fucking embarrassing
planetgeli
There's no future in England's dreaming
And for those who can't be bothered to click
Senior Labour figures have told BBC Newsnight that the Commons speaker Sir Lyndsay Hoyle was left in no doubt that Labour was prepared to see him fall as speaker after the general election unless he called its Gaza amendment.
Newsnight has been told that it was made clear that Hoyle would need Labour votes to be re-elected after the general election and this might not be forthcoming.
That would effectively mean he would lose the speakership
Senior Labour figures have told BBC Newsnight that the Commons speaker Sir Lyndsay Hoyle was left in no doubt that Labour was prepared to see him fall as speaker after the general election unless he called its Gaza amendment.
Newsnight has been told that it was made clear that Hoyle would need Labour votes to be re-elected after the general election and this might not be forthcoming.
That would effectively mean he would lose the speakership
And this is one of their own remember...
Cant understand the shite that is the British Parliament. What a fucking batch of wankers. Morally bankrupt people with not a shred of humanity between them all.
Call for a fucking ceasefire you decrepit shower of ignorant self serving cunts.
Fuck "politics "
Fuck "politicians"
Fuck "semantics"
30000 dead
100000 injured and a million at risk of starving.
Call for a fucking ceasefire you decrepit shower of ignorant self serving cunts.
Fuck "politics "
Fuck "politicians"
Fuck "semantics"
30000 dead
100000 injured and a million at risk of starving.
I've not previously understood folks that don't vote and yet express strong feelings against the established order. I do now, as this situation has also turned me off politics big time. It's all so predictably Party first and foremost, at the expense of everything else, even the greater good.
agricola
a genuine importer of owls
It should perhaps be mentioned here that the late Queen never went to Israel, Prince Phillip went once (to visit his mother's grave), and the current King has only been three times as Prince of Wales (and never as an official royal visit). William was the first (only) one to go in 2018, in a visit that was mainly remembered for him having to shove Sara Netanyahu in the back at one point.
planetgeli
There's no future in England's dreaming
(Well known non-sectarian) Ian Paisley accuses SNP MP Steve Bonnar of being anti-semitic.
Bonnar complains.
Bonnar is then warned by the Speaker to watch what he says.
This is then followed by Tory Miriam Cates saying Hamas bears responsibility for every single death in the conflict.
Gotta love democracy.
Bonnar complains.
Bonnar is then warned by the Speaker to watch what he says.
This is then followed by Tory Miriam Cates saying Hamas bears responsibility for every single death in the conflict.
Gotta love democracy.
Rather unexpected slant from the BBC here:
'Dad, please don't go out': The Gazans killed as Israel freed hostages
Shrapnel ripped through the tents of displaced Palestinians as the Israeli military rescued two hostages.
www.bbc.co.uk
Gramsci
Well-Known Member
Yes.
And noticed this:
Been reading the news a bit today and Labour have been presenting their amendment as the grown up one to vote for as compared to SNP.
Liz Nandy had gall to say the Labour amendment was the one to go for. And parliament should be above politics on this issue.
It's infuriating. Basically all the demos and lobbying of MPs has paid off. And Labour leadership have shifted their position.
They are trying to say this had nothing to do with it.
Im in England so can't vote SNP. On the way they have conducted themselves over Gaza I'd give them my vote this time around.
Labour and Tories have been appalling
To quote John Crace, 'Everyone wanted a ceasefire. Only they wanted their own ceasefire, not anyone else’s ceasefire'. Pathetic.
PR1Berske
Alligator in chains by the park gates.
As a politics nerd of many years, and as a genuine believer in politics and democracy, I've never witnessed such a disastrous, chaotic, embarrassing series of self-serving lunacy as I have today, particularly from 6 onwards. A motion brought on the Opposition Day in the name of the SNP has become a free for all bun fright about archane procedure.
I'd say it was childish, but children tend to learn from their mistakes.
I'd say it was childish, but children tend to learn from their mistakes.
Gramsci
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I was at the demo on Saturday. After the Palestinian Ambassador spoke the Lutheran pastor from Bethlehem spoke. He is over here to speak to get support for Palestinians.
It appears his meeting with the Archbishop of Canterbury was cancelled because he spoke at the demo.
Appalling. I'm not religious but to my mind this is the worst sort of sectarian mentality by Church of England. He was here as representative of Palestinians. Whatever the Archbishop thinks of Corbyn should be set aside.
To add as I've said the Palestinian Ambassador said this is not a religious conflict. Christian and Muslim Palestinians are facing the brunt of IDF/ Israeli government collective punishment of Palestinians.
amp.theguardian.com
It appears his meeting with the Archbishop of Canterbury was cancelled because he spoke at the demo.
Appalling. I'm not religious but to my mind this is the worst sort of sectarian mentality by Church of England. He was here as representative of Palestinians. Whatever the Archbishop thinks of Corbyn should be set aside.
To add as I've said the Palestinian Ambassador said this is not a religious conflict. Christian and Muslim Palestinians are facing the brunt of IDF/ Israeli government collective punishment of Palestinians.
Pastor says Welby would not meet him if he spoke at Palestine rally with Corbyn | Justin Welby | The Guardian
Archbishop said he could not meet Bethlehem Lutheran Munther Isaac if he shared platform with former Labour leader, Isaac says
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How Keir Starmer averted Gaza ceasefire vote crisis
A last-minute intervention proved crucial as Starmer faced the biggest rebellion of his leadership
Gramsci
Well-Known Member
I heard hime speak at the demo last Saturday. He is very good speaker and gets to the point.
Gramsci
Well-Known Member
How Keir Starmer averted Gaza ceasefire vote crisis
A last-minute intervention proved crucial as Starmer faced the biggest rebellion of his leadership
If anyone is guilty of politicking over this its the Labour party leadership. Utter contempt for them.
Definitely not voting Labour.
agricola
a genuine importer of owls
How Keir Starmer averted Gaza ceasefire vote crisis
A last-minute intervention proved crucial as Starmer faced the biggest rebellion of his leadership
Any party leadership that did this could never be trusted to form a government; the government already has an excessive amount of power with regards to scheduling but pushing the Speaker around in this way would quickly end what remains of Commons independence. It is exactly what people like Orban, and PiS did.
littlebabyjesus
one of Maxwell's demons
wtf? Is Corbyn a terrorist now or something?I was at the demo on Saturday. After the Palestinian Ambassador spoke the Lutheran pastor from Bethlehem spoke. He is over here to speak to get support for Palestinians.
It appears his meeting with the Archbishop of Canterbury was cancelled because he spoke at the demo.
Appalling. I'm not religious but to my mind this is the worst sort of sectarian mentality by Church of England. He was here as representative of Palestinians. Whatever the Archbishop thinks of Corbyn should be set aside.
To add as I've said the Palestinian Ambassador said this is not a religious conflict. Christian and Muslim Palestinians are facing the brunt of IDF/ Israeli government collective punishment of Palestinians.
Pastor says Welby would not meet him if he spoke at Palestine rally with Corbyn | Justin Welby | The Guardian
Archbishop said he could not meet Bethlehem Lutheran Munther Isaac if he shared platform with former Labour leader, Isaac says
Last I looked, he was a long-standing member of the House of Commons.
agricola
a genuine importer of owls
I was at the demo on Saturday. After the Palestinian Ambassador spoke the Lutheran pastor from Bethlehem spoke. He is over here to speak to get support for Palestinians.
It appears his meeting with the Archbishop of Canterbury was cancelled because he spoke at the demo.
Appalling. I'm not religious but to my mind this is the worst sort of sectarian mentality by Church of England. He was here as representative of Palestinians. Whatever the Archbishop thinks of Corbyn should be set aside.
To add as I've said the Palestinian Ambassador said this is not a religious conflict. Christian and Muslim Palestinians are facing the brunt of IDF/ Israeli government collective punishment of Palestinians.
Pastor says Welby would not meet him if he spoke at Palestine rally with Corbyn | Justin Welby | The Guardian
Archbishop said he could not meet Bethlehem Lutheran Munther Isaac if he shared platform with former Labour leader, Isaac says
Welby's stance on this baffles me, but then again he did effectively tell people to not vote for Labour in 2019 so perhaps one should not be surprised.
brogdale
Coming to terms with late onset Anarchism
Big Oil man who still lies that climate change was not known about when he worked for oil.
Johnny Vodka
The Abominable Scotsman
Aye, watching Lisa Nandy trying to take the moral high ground on ch4 news was pretty nauseating considering how long it's taken Labour to get round to the idea of a ceasefire.
Gramsci
Well-Known Member
Bethlehem pastor issues uncompromising call to UK churches | ICN
On Sunday 18th February 2024 at Bloomsbury Central Baptist Church, in London, The Revd Dr Munther Isaac, pastor of Christmas Evangelical Lutheran Church in Bethlehem, issued an uncompromising call to the UK churches. He said that they are called "to be the church, and to act in costly s...
www.indcatholicnews.com
Here is a sermon form the Lutheran Church minister. Must say its full on. I'm not a Christian but have found non conformists are strong on peoples rights.
The Church of England is the established church and so is part of the establishment.
The difference shows.
Thought CH1 might like to read this.
Im not an expert on the different protestant churches.
From his sermon:
THis kind of thing probably gave the head of our established church concerns about meeting him
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