Hamas/Israel conflict: news and discussion

[WhyLikeThis]

You're actually quite an unhinged loon on this all aren't you?

I have not and do not cheerlead any of that ffs, I was stating a fact/explaining the usage.

Just get back to your shit politics and finding antisemitic conspiracies everywhere you look.

I’ve skimmed over your history of posting and it is not complimentary. A very high percentage is your obsession with muslims, your hatred and fear of them. You are a racist.

The rest of hour posting is anti left bile.

Why do you claim to be an anarchist?

 

[Sue]

I’ve skimmed over your history of posting and it is not complimentary. A very high percentage is your obsession with muslims, your hatred and fear of them. You are a racist.

The rest of hour posting is anti left bile.

Why do you claim to be an anarchist?

This is a load of complete bollocks. You need to apologise to LDC.

 

[cupid_stunt]

I’ve skimmed over your history of posting and it is not complimentary. A very high percentage is your obsession with muslims, your hatred and fear of them. You are a racist.

The rest of hour posting is anti left bile.

Why do you claim to be an anarchist?

Have you been drinking all day?

 

[WhyLikeThis]

LDC is nasty piece of work.

 

[Serge Forward]

I don't always agree with LDC but for fuck sake WhyLikeThis, you're dead wrong and totally out of order.

 

[WhyLikeThis]

I don't always agree with LDC but for fuck sake WhyLikeThis, you're dead wrong and totally out of order.

Take a look at their favourite topics to post on.

They are heavily pro genocide.

 

[Orang Utan]

I’ve skimmed over your history of posting and it is not complimentary. A very high percentage is your obsession with muslims, your hatred and fear of them. You are a racist.

The rest of hour posting is anti left bile.

Why do you claim to be an anarchist?

Are you sure you have the right poster here?

 

[FridgeMagnet]

I’ve skimmed over your history of posting and it is not complimentary. A very high percentage is your obsession with muslims, your hatred and fear of them. You are a racist.

The rest of hour posting is anti left bile.

Why do you claim to be an anarchist?

I think you are going way OTT here and that you need to stop doing that.

 

[LDC]

Oh my god I'm heavily pro-genocide am I?

The whole household including my muslim foster daughter (who did a cake sale fundraiser for Palestine support last week just to add to shattering your comedic delusions) have just found that wildly fucking hilarious you total fruitcake. Anyway, I have you on ignore and I'll go back to that, so stop de-railing the conversation with your wild fantasies.

 

[Dystopiary]

Take a look at their favourite topics to post on.

They are heavily pro genocide.

No they are not.

 

[Dystopiary]

Shitting hell.

Any time on this thread someone says, hang on, that's conspiracy rubbish, or the person you're quoting is literally an Assad supporter, someone else steps in and starts asks if they support Israeli war crimes, or announcing that their critic is a genocide apologist ffs. And now it's full on "they are heavily pro-genocide."

It's shit politics, it's shit behaviour.

 

[redsquirrel]

I’ve skimmed over your history of posting and it is not complimentary. A very high percentage is your obsession with muslims, your hatred and fear of them. You are a racist.

The rest of hour posting is anti left bile.

Why do you claim to be an anarchist?

WTF I've never seen LDC post anything Islamophobic or suggests that he has an obsession with Muslims. This is just shite.

 

[Wilf]

I’ve skimmed over your history of posting and it is not complimentary. A very high percentage is your obsession with muslims, your hatred and fear of them. You are a racist.

The rest of hour posting is anti left bile.

Why do you claim to be an anarchist?

Another post to say you are out of line on this. I don't agree with LDC on this thread, but the stuff above is just wrong.

 

[two sheds]

The only obsession I've seen of LDC's is the NHS.

I think you've got the wrong poster, too.

 

[A380]

Trouble is this thread has become almost an echo chamber now as many reasonable posters, with a huge range of views, have baled. LDC is one of the few posters challenging the groupthink and the hard of thinking less able at analysis posters, of which WhyLikeThis is a prime example, don't like beiing challenged in what they have come to see as their own little walled garden area of P&P.

Well that my two pence worth anyway. Could well be bollocks.

 

[Wilf]

My take is that the thread has been pretty good given the horrors and the emotions involved (I ended up saying 'good'. I was going to say balanced, but I'm not sure looking for 'balance' is the way to go given the topic. It's about having a position, responding to horrors and having some analysis). Yes, there have been some horrible individual posts, but the core of the thread has been an understandable set of responses to what is going on. There have been accusations of Assadism and even anti-semitism, or at least people quoting Assadists and anti-semites. I'll take it that that was the case, though I haven't tended to follow those links or trace things back. But there have also been some pretty unwholesome justifications of what the IDF is doing. So, maybe there has been a kind of 'balance'.

 

[littlebabyjesus]

Groupthink?

Care to elaborate on that? I see a bunch of posters who are sickened by an ongoing genocide and angered and disgusted by their own country's complicity.

There were posters earlier in the thread who were questioning the anti-Israel sentiments. They've disappeared, yes. Probably with their tails between their legs given what's happened since.

Not even worth two pence.

 

[keybored]

Are you sure you have the right poster here?

Maybe the acronym is confusing them, LDC could look a bit like IDF after a few shandies.

 

[littlebabyjesus]

My take is that the thread has been pretty good given the horrors and the emotions involved (I ended up saying 'good'. I was going to say balanced, but I'm not sure looking for 'balance' is the way to go given the topic. It's about having a position, responding to horrors and having some analysis. Yes, there have been some horrible individual posts, but the core of the thread has been an understandable set of responses to what is going on. There have been accusations of Assadism and even anti-semitism, or at least people quoting Assadists and anti-semites. I'll take it that that was the case, though I haven't tended to follow those links or trace things back. But there have also been some pretty unwholesome justifications of what the IDF is doing. So, maybe there has been a kind of 'balance'.

People are no longer posting up IDF lies as if they were true. I see that as improving the balance of the discussion if anything.

 

[SpookyFrank]

Trouble is this thread has become almost an echo chamber now as many reasonable posters, with a huge range of views, have baled. LDC is one of the few posters challenging the groupthink and the hard of thinking less able at analysis posters, of which WhyLikeThis is a prime example, don't like beiing challenged in what they have come to see as their own little walled garden area of P&P.

Well that my two pence worth anyway. Could well be bollocks.

Been a lot of posts like this out of you lately. Trouble is you never elaborate on what the groupthink position is, why it's wrong or where you and your plucky little band of iconoclasts actually stand.

E2a: This should not be taken as any kind of defence of WhyLikeThis' unhinged attacks.

 

[WhyLikeThis]

Trouble is this thread has become almost an echo chamber now as many reasonable posters, with a huge range of views, have baled. LDC is one of the few posters challenging the groupthink and the hard of thinking less able at analysis posters, of which WhyLikeThis is a prime example, don't like beiing challenged in what they have come to see as their own little walled garden area of P&P.

Well that my two pence worth anyway. Could well be bollocks.

What’s the take from “reasonable posters” on this?

 

[Wilf]

Trouble is this thread has become almost an echo chamber now as many reasonable posters, with a huge range of views, have baled. LDC is one of the few posters challenging the groupthink and the hard of thinking less able at analysis posters, of which WhyLikeThis is a prime example, don't like beiing challenged in what they have come to see as their own little walled garden area of P&P.

Well that my two pence worth anyway. Could well be bollocks.

There's certainly a strong pro-Palestinian core to the thread, but I'm not sure there's a groupthink. My guess is there's a spread of people from Labour supporters through to anarchists and if you prodded away there would some very different views on Hamas, for example, in there. Not a groupthink, just a common reading of the history and the lives the people of Palestine have been forced to live. And yes, of Israel as an oppressor.

 

[A380]

Been a lot of posts like this out of you lately. Trouble is you never elaborate on what the groupthink position is, why it's wrong or where you and your plucky little band of iconoclasts actually stand.

E2a: This should not be taken as any kind of defence of WhyLikeThis' unhinged attacks.

Glad you made that edit.

 

[Wilf]

Glad you made that edit.

Well then, what is the groupthink position and why do you disagree with it?

 

[Sue]

What’s the take from “reasonable posters” on this?

What do you think it is? (I also don't really get why you're asking this to be absolutely honest.)

 

[Wilf]

There were posters earlier in the thread who were questioning the anti-Israel sentiments. They've disappeared, yes. Probably with their tails between their legs given what's happened since.

Not even worth two pence.

Yes, one of whom said they were okay with what the IDF were doing and would continue being so until public opinion in Israel decided they'd done enough. I won't tag them, but it's an illustration that there have been some rather grim pro-israel posts. Not quite a groupthink.

 

[WhyLikeThis]

What’s the nuanced position A380 on this?

 

[Gramsci]

Trouble is this thread has become almost an echo chamber now as many reasonable posters, with a huge range of views, have baled. LDC is one of the few posters challenging the groupthink and the hard of thinking less able at analysis posters, of which WhyLikeThis is a prime example, don't like beiing challenged in what they have come to see as their own little walled garden area of P&P.

Well that my two pence worth anyway. Could well be bollocks.

Precisely what does the echo chamber view consist of?

Ive been a poster on this thread from the start almost.

Always tried to back up what Im saying with the background reading Ive done.

Which started before the present violence started.

Personally Im surprised Ive lasted on this politics thread so long.

Im a regular on Brixton Forum but found all politics threads not for shrinking violets.

Personally I cannot take to much in your face aggression I see a lot on politics threads

Yet on these threads about Gaza Im ok.

So what exactly is the problem for you?

This undercurrent of posters being pushed off these threads has gone on since these threads started going.

As a slightly timid poster on politics threads I just do not see it.

 

[Wilf]

Precisely what does the echo chamber view consist of?

Ive been a poster on this thread from the start almost.

Always tried to back up what Im saying with the background reading Ive done.

Which started before the present violence started.

Personally Im surprised Ive lasted on this politics thread so long.

Im a regular on Brixton Forum but found all politics threads not for shrinking violets.

Personally I cannot take to much in your face aggression I see a lot on politics threads

Yet on these threads about Gaza Im ok.

So what exactly is the problem for you?

This undercurrent of posters being pushed off these threads has gone on since these threads started going.

As a slightly timid poster on politics threads I just do not see it.

This.

 

[Orang Utan]

What’s the nuanced position A380 on this?

What’s your issue here? Is anyone justifying this?