Hamas/Israel conflict: news and discussion

[tim]

What a load of shit. Israel doesn't hold it's murder army to account ever.

Just like the British state and its murder army.

Northern Ireland: Legal action could follow decision not to prosecute Bloody Sunday soldiers for perjury

Further legal action could be brought by victims and survivors of the 1972 Bloody Sunday massacre following a decision not to prosecute any former British soldiers for perjury in relation to evidence they gave to successive inquiries, a lawyer has warned. Only one former British soldier, known as &l

www.scottishlegal.com

 

[maomao]

All armies are murder armies. It's practically a tautology.

 

[Gramsci]

The International Criminal Court is not the venue to hold Israel to account

It's an odd article.

Says ICC should concentrate on others not Israel. Then says on civilian deaths and not letting aid in there's a case to answer. Israel as a democratic state should uphold human rights.

So it's not denying what's happening.

It says

The ICC is putting the elected leaders of a democratic country with its own independent judiciary in the same category as dictators and authoritarians who kill with impunity

A more interesting question to put is how could a western style democracy end up not upholding human rights of civilians.

I thought one of the unsaid plus points of democracy Vs authoritarian state is that , for example,things that are happening in Gaza would be stopped by the democratic state. Democracy is inherently pro human rights. It's common sense that this is so.

It appears having a democratic state does not necessarily lead to human rights being observed.

 

[little_legs]

Every single person who contributed to that WaPo editorial should be tried at The Hague.

 

[tim]

My beautiful shiny house...

Why are you mocking a traumatised person who has had their home bombed? Would you laugh at a Palestinian or Lebanese civillian victim of this war?

 

[little_legs]

So that you can ask your dumb questions, obviously.

 

[tim]

It's an odd article.

Says ICC should concentrate on others not Israel. Then says on civilian deaths and not letting aid in there's a case to answer. Israel as a democratic state should uphold human rights.

So it's not denying what's happening.

It says


A more interesting question to put is how could a western style democracy end up not upholding human rights of civilians.

I thought one of the unsaid plus points of democracy Vs authoritarian state is that , for example,things that are happening in Gaza would be stopped by the democratic state. Democracy is inherently pro human rights. It's common sense that this is so.

It appears having a democratic state does not necessarily lead to human rights being observed.

It's an article in a newspaper owned by Jeff Bezos. He may seem a more liberal and cuddlier oligarch than Musk but he and his outlets represent the views of part ofthe US Establishment.

 

[Pickman's model]

Why are you mocking a traumatised person who has had their home bombed? Would you laugh at a Palestinian or Lebanese civillian victim of this war?

Has teuchter nicked your login?

 

[Pickman's model]

All armies are murder armies. It's practically a tautology.

Even the salvation army, skeleton army or the barmy army?

 

[tim]

Even the salvation army, skeleton army or the barmy army?

The Salvation Army definitely have blood on their hands.

Salvation Army ‘deeply regrets’ sexual abuse of children in its care

Charity acknowledges ‘failure of the greatest magnitude’ before public hearing into its response to abuse at four of its homes

www.theguardian.com

 

[maomao]

Even the salvation army, skeleton army or the barmy army?

Yes.