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Putin fanboy
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Hamas/Israel conflict: news and discussion
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teqniq
DisMembered
Good morning (for some of us). This account still seems to have live net access inside Gaza. Unsurprisingly it does not make for comfortable reading:
cupid_stunt
Chief seagull hater & farmerbarleymow's nemesis.
nino_savatte
No pasaran!
She has the CAA, Gnasher et al behind her, egging her on and providing her with financial support. It's not her money that's she's losing in damages.According to her wiki she has quite the history of accusing people of anti-semitism and then having to apologise. It's cost her a few bob as well.
Tracy-Ann Oberman - Wikipedia
en.wikipedia.org
Wilf
Slouching towards Billingham
In terms of not abstaining, taking a stand , I wonder if you have enough 'information ' yet?
platinumsage
HaveMyPassword123
If opinion polls show a majority of Israelis are against any further military action in Gaza I’d expect I’d be happy to concur. I don’t like everything the IDF are doing but I’m sure no one needs my uninformed opinions on which particular air strikes were immorally targeted and which weren’t.
deeyo
hurled unheard to this world.
some background by emily tamkin on american jews, their relation with israel & why/how it might be changing. lots of good 'in-article' links too.1000s of US Jews and allies flood Grand Central in emergency protest against Gaza invasion
1000s of US Jews and allies flood Grand Central in emergency protest against Gaza invasion
Images show mass protest as Israel begins brutal new phase of extermination of Gazan population Thousands of US Jews who oppose Israel’s brutal war crimes against Gazan civilians, along with …skwawkbox.org
What the Jewish-Led Protests Against Israel’s Actions Look Like Right Now
At the White House, hundreds pleaded: “How dare you use my grief to justify killing innocent civilians in my name?”
Can American Jewish Support for Israel Survive This New Government?
For many liberal American Jews, this most extreme right-wing government in Israel’s history is a test of long-held assumptions and beliefs.
newrepublic.com
& one from 10 oct, bout (early) in-israel critique
What Does It Mean to Stand With Israel?
There is a better way to support the Israeli people than unconditional support of its current government.
& a long interview with israeli journalist amira hass from 20 oct
Dogsauce
I’ve got Skol but I’m not a Scholar
Fucking hell:
Tbh, it’s not like Israel would pay any attention to a UN resolution anyway, they aren‘t going to change habits.
Gramsci
Well-Known Member
This is showing the splits in the EU. Santos has been particularly vocal in calling for a humanitarian ceasefire. To his credit. He is centre left. Big difference between him and Starmer on this for example. Who also like to think of himself as a centre politcian
Santos is also reflecting public feeling.
He is supporting the head of UN. Which Starmer isn't. Just goes to show its possible to take different line.
English -
Spain calls for humanitarian cease-fire in Gaza
Sánchez’s call is unusually direct while EU countries are still at odds over whether to call for a ‘humanitarian pause’ in the fighting.
Chz
Stark Raving Sane
Fucking hell:
That's tragic, of course, but seems founded on some bizarre logic that even if the Security Council passed a motion calling for a ceasefire the Israelis would listen to it. The UN is a debating chamber; it has no real power except the threat of the Major Powers getting involved. If Biden personally tells them to stop, maybe they would pay that some heed. But the UN? You're joking.
Edit: Ninja'ed by Dogsauce .
teqniq
DisMembered
No, but they need to be held to account.
teqniq
DisMembered
Article written by a student in Gaza:
www.theguardian.com
Please keep marching for Palestine – your protests are giving hope to the people of Gaza | Nowar Diab
The demonstrations in our name make us feel that we are heard, and our cries are not in vain, says Nowar Diab, a student from Gaza City
Rob Ray
Weight is meaningless
Anything rather than look on the images people are posting all around you and see them as the human beings they are, and what is being done to them, eh. Coward. Never ask yourself how people can look the other way and pretend while butchery happens on an industrial scale - you have your answer.
platinumsage
HaveMyPassword123
War is bad. I don’t recall many people demanding that ISIS be allowed to create and expand their caliphate unhindered so that a civilian would not be injured in stopping them.
Mr.Bishie
pickled egg
Wilf
Slouching towards Billingham
Fucking hell:
One for you platinumsage . Oh, sorry, my mistake, you need to check the opinion polls first don't you.
platinumsage
HaveMyPassword123
If you want to talk about countries that abstained or voted against a ceasefire consider the 78 countries which did just that to due to the presence of an amendment condemning Hamas and demanding the well-being and release of all hostages.
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
Fucking hell:
Well may it be said that the idf fight post-heroic warfare, waging war on women and children to an extent hamas and hezbollah at their most brutal can only aspire to https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/10.1177/0095327X13498224
littlebabyjesus
one of Maxwell's demons
Of course marches change fuck all really , but this does feel a bit like 2003 when each march was bigger than the previous one and in the end it was far more than just the usual suspects who felt compelled to make a stand.
Every morning we wake up to news that it is even worse than the morning before.
This started as attempted genocide. Now it is just plain genocide. 'Ethnic cleansing' doesn't begin to cover it. They want to destroy every single home. The more people they kill in the process, the better.
I'm lost for words now.
Every morning we wake up to news that it is even worse than the morning before.
This started as attempted genocide. Now it is just plain genocide. 'Ethnic cleansing' doesn't begin to cover it. They want to destroy every single home. The more people they kill in the process, the better.
I'm lost for words now.
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
We've been at each other for years but we've liked each others posts on this thread. You've been eloquent in presenting your views on this awful onslaught, and I expect you'll find the words to express yourself well as matters progress. But for my money this hasn't even really descended into the true horror to come when the whole of the gaza strip becomes a bloodbath whose proportions and atrocities will take months if not years to be wholly uncovered.
nino_savatte
No pasaran!
Douglas Murray, who was cited in Anders Breivik's manifesto, wades in with this textbook example of psychological projection.
platinumsage
HaveMyPassword123
Except he didn’t say that.
Gramsci
Well-Known Member
Celtic fans do their bit in defiance of club mge
www.aljazeera.com
‘Fly the flag for Palestine’: Celtic fans defy club in show of solidarity
Fans displayed banners and held up thousands of Palestine flags during their team’s UEFA Champions League match.
agricola
a genuine importer of owls
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