Hamas/Israel conflict: news and discussion

[cupid_stunt]

Can someone tell me how Al Jazeera reporters are still able to broadcast with no internet etc

Probably by satellite phone.

 

[Bingoman]

Probably by satellite phone.

Ah ok

 

[Rob Ray]

Can someone tell me how Al Jazeera reporters are still able to broadcast with no internet etc

Quite likely they'll have their own generator and satellite feed. Plus if there's any signal access at all it'll be in the interests of whatever passes for the Gaza leadership right now to prioritise keeping them up and running.

Edit: The Al Jazeera reporter in Khan Younis was saying just now that he's able to send a satellite signal but has no idea if his broadcast is making it to the news team and can't receive any messages back. He's just filing on the off chance.

 

[planetgeli]

Can someone tell me how Al Jazeera reporters are still able to broadcast with no internet etc

There are no broadcasters (the ones I've seen are in Jerusalem) just pictures. And that's quite the bombardment going on.

Oh there is now. Explaining it's coming via digital satellites.

 

[Raheem]

Can someone tell me how Al Jazeera reporters are still able to broadcast with no internet etc

Satellite?

 

[cupid_stunt]

There are no broadcasters (the ones I've seen are in Jerusalem) just pictures. And that's quite the bombardment going on.

Al Jazeera has just had a reporter from Gaza on, but only by phone, no pictures, that's why I suspect he has a satellite phone.

 

[Bingoman]

Al Jazeera has just had a reporter from Gaza on, but only by phone, no pictures, that's why I suspect he has a satellite phone.

Ok thanks for all responses

 

[8ball]

About 40%of the way through we are told that this is 'big boy politics' by some bloke from Labour Friends of War Crimes Israel, whilst on the right hand screen we get clips of Jeremy Corbyn

Well, that was truly bizarre.

 

[Rob Ray]

Palestine Red Crescent:
We have completely lost contact with the operations room in Gaza Strip and all our teams operating there due to the Israeli authorities cutting off all landline, cellular and internet communications. We are deeply concerned about the ability of our teams to continue…

 

[Kid_Eternity]

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I think because it's so wildly improbable that Netanyahu would even contemplate it... Forget whether it's been mentioned in the thread, or might have been Harari mentioned it in the podcast you posted way back, but remember it coming up somewhere. It would also require a colossal aid effort (I mean not that the current situation doesn't, but it's a lot easier for those in power to ignore when they can deny responsibility). And issues of trust etc.

I think it's easy to look at this small spot on a map and say 'well, why can't they just...'. We're talking about safe accommodation for the population of Birmingham (the city itself + a bit of metro). Also a deeply traumatised population... It justifies an effort on that level (though whether that specific plan would be appropriate seems.. debatable). But it's not going to happen.

The politics are harder than the aid effort needed here. Aid agencies are very good at getting a camp up and running at scale but yeah none going to happen….

 

[Kid_Eternity]

Can someone tell me how Al Jazeera reporters are still able to broadcast with no internet etc

Satellite connections, you can set them up with not too much kit.

 

[Kid_Eternity]

Much more nuanced than I expected. Very interesting interview. We need more of this progressive thinking.

Agreed, he has been far more interesting to listen to than a lot of the highly tribal commentators…

 

[Bingoman]

Satellite connections, you can set them up with not too much kit.

Oh right ok

 

[Kid_Eternity]

Al Jazeera are reporting that Qatar mediated cease fire talks are at an "advanced stage".

Wonder what that means in light of what looks like the start of the ground invasion proper?

 

[Kid_Eternity]

For those posters who feel all the Israeli government are doing is to carry out the wishes of the electorate

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Indeed, we should probably be more nuanced with language, instead of talking about Israeli’s speak about specifically what part of that country we mean…

 

[brogdale]

AJ are live-streaming some long-range images of the almost constant bombardment and reporting that UNRWA have said that civil order has collapsed.

Lost for words.

 

[Larry O'Hara]

I'm doing the foreign pages layout today, I'm generally pretty hard to shake with war pics as I've been doing this a long time but the picture wire for Gaza is some of the worst I've seen. There's one kid in hospital. Actually crying a bit. Fuck.

So soon it will be the equivalent of being able to take someone into a private room and pummel the shit out of them where no-one else can see.

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Yes this comms blackout likely essential part of IDF gameplan

 

[Ax^]

Well, that was truly bizarre.

very bizarre he rambles from the same interview

"The Nazis tried hard to hide their crimes. Hamas on the other hand live-streamed their crimes. This is the barbarity of the enemy we are facing.”"


whilst the IDF enforce a news blackout before invading

 

[littlebabyjesus]

Al Jazeera still has reporters in Khan Younis. Satellite link by the looks of it.

 

[Mr.Bishie]

Al Jazeera still has reporters in Khan Younis. Satellite link by the looks of it.

Very limited now too.

 

[Rob Ray]

UN resolution calling for a ceasefire and resumption of aid has been approved, for what little that's worth. Being reported alongside long-range footage of bombs slamming into Gaza City.

 

[Mr.Bishie]

UN resolution calling for a ceasefire and resumption of aid has been approved, for what little that's worth. Being reported alongside long-range footage of bombs slamming into Gaza City.

The latest:

Israel has rejected calls for a "humanitarian pause" in hostilities, in a rare disagreement with several of its western allies.

"Israel is opposed to a humanitarian pause or ceasefire at this time," Lior Haiat, Israel's foreign ministry spokesperson, said on Friday.

A temporary stop to bombardment has been touted by several of Israel's backers, including the US, Canada, the UK and the EU.

"I welcome the growing global consensus for a humanitarian pause in the conflict," UN Secretary-General Antonio Guterres said in a statement.

But far from a pause, Israel's military said on Friday evening that it was "expanding" its aerial and ground activity in Gaza.

Israel-Palestine live: Thousands in state of panic as Israel continues to strike hospitals

More US organisations, including labour unions and Biden staffers, join call for ceasefire in Gaza

www.middleeasteye.net

 

[agricola]

UN resolution calling for a ceasefire and resumption of aid has been approved, for what little that's worth. Being reported alongside long-range footage of bombs slamming into Gaza City.

even we abstained:

 

[zedr]

UN resolution calling for a ceasefire and resumption of aid has been approved, for what little that's worth. Being reported alongside long-range footage of bombs slamming into Gaza City.

Its saying a humanitarian truce on Al Jazeera, assuming that amounts to roughly the same thing, though maybe less binding?

 

[littlebabyjesus]

US voted against. France in favour. UK abstained.

 

[Gramsci]

It's quite simple for me now. Any politician not at the very least calling for an immediate ceasefire can fuck the fuck off.

Thinking on it Id agree.

My MP view is for humanitarian corridors so people can leave.

I was listening to the head of Rec Cross in Gaza last night. He was asked about Israel government telling people to leave. he was clear on this - to tell people to leave is not in accordance with human rights agreements.

So what my MP and Starmer are saying is wrong.

 

[twistedAM]

US voted against. France in favour. UK abstained.

Most of the EU wankers abstained as did Ukraine - maybe they were thinking we should just send Palestinians lots of money.

 

[agricola]

Another sensible, measured response:

Gilad Erdan, Ambassador of Israel to the UN, said in response to the resolution passing that “today is a day that will go down in infamy”.

“We have all witnessed that the UN holds not even one ounce of legitimacy,” he said. “The UN is committed to ensuring further atrocity. According to the family of nations, Israel has no right to defend itself.”

There are no talks or discussions to be held with Hamas, he said, adding that Israel will not sit idly by to let them commit atrocities again. The resolution does not mention Hamas once, as if the war started on its own.

“What is going on here?” he asked, questioning whether the goal was to tie Israel’s hands. “The only way to destroy Hamas is to root them out. Why are you not holding Hamas accountable?”

“We know there is no humanitarian crisis in accordance with international humanitarian law,” he said, noting that every statistic comes from Hamas about information about Gaza.

Anyone interested in preventing violence should call on Hamas to lay down their arms, turn themselves in and return all hostages, he said.

“If this were to happen, the war would end immediately,” he said. “This is a dark day for the UN and mankind. Israel will defend itself and will do what must be done to eradicate Hamas’ capabilities and bring the hostages home.”

 

[The39thStep]

Its saying a humanitarian truce on Al Jazeera, assuming that amounts to roughly the same thing, though maybe less binding?

None of it is binding I' m afraid, it's only the security council resolutions that are binding

 

[Ax^]

Most of the EU wankers abstained as did Ukraine - maybe they were thinking we should just send Palestinians lots of money.

tbf to Ukraine they cannot afford to piss off the yanks atm