Hamas/Israel conflict: news and discussion

[HazeyCosmicJive]

Good to see that civilised debate is thriving in U75.

 

[nino_savatte]

Passive-aggressive much, fella?

 

[mojo pixy]

Good to see that civilised debate is thriving in U75.

You haven't posted anything worth debating, civilly or otherwise. Try harder.

 

[HazeyCosmicJive]

The state of you.

Anyone can express an opinion; it doesn't take "balls" as you claim here. Opinions are like arseholes: everyone has one, and not all opinions are equal.

So whats your opinion smarty pants? What is the solution? What would have been an appropriate and proportionate response to the Hamas attack?

 

[Gramsci]

OK. Whereas you have ..... nothing. No opinion, you just sit and snipe at people who have the balls to express one. So come on, tell us how to resolve this. btw I have no idea what a hasbara is and don't intend to look it up.

You could try to read some of the past posts here. Rather than just jump in . Some posters have covered some of questions you are asking

 

[mojo pixy]

Seriously HazeyCosmicJive , I've just re-read your posts and it's like reading the daily mail. You're just echoing standard mainstream pro-israel talking points: OK, we get it, "you stand with israel", good for you.

Back in reality, how many Palestinians have to die to purge the sins committed last weekend? 1000? 2000? 10000? Half of them? All of them? How many more people have to die before you question where you stand?

I've always loved Israel, I married an Israeli, I lived there and worked there and cared for kids there. But those kids will now be doing army service in the IDF, and I hate to think what they might be doing over the next few months. But I tell you what, when shit like this happens I absolutely do not 'stand with israel'.

Get some perspective. Use some compassion. Read this thread. Read some history; try Ilan Pappe. Then report back.

 

[ska invita]

Glad to see that there are some supplies going in now.

Twenty trucks... My local supermarkets get more deliveries
Meanwhile

https://www.middleeastmonitor.com/20231020-hamas-israel-s-targeting-of-bakeries-in-gaza-a-crime-against-humanity/

 

[Kid_Eternity]

I hope they are not storing the fresh fruit next to the rockets.

Eh? Islamic Relief are a well known and credible aid agency. They’ve helped millions all over the world.

 

[CNT36]

It looks like we picked different sides. Good luck with your choice.

And you. If large numbers of people view this like a football match the way you seem to then you may need it.

 

[HazeyCosmicJive]

Seriously HazeyCosmicJive , I've just re-read your posts and it's like reading the daily mail. You're just echoing standard mainstream pro-israel talking points: OK, we get it, "you stand with israel", good for you.

Back in reality, how many Palestinians have to die to purge the sins committed last weekend? 1000? 2000? 10000? Half of them? All of them? How many more people have to die before you question where you stand?

I've always loved Israel, I married an Israeli, I lived there and worked there and cared for kids there. But those kids will now be doing army service in the IDF, and I hate to think what they might be doing over the next few months. But I tell you what, when shit like this happens I absolutely do not 'stand with israel'.

Get some perspective. Use some compassion. Read this thread. Read some history; try Ilan Pappe. Then report back.

Thank you for the courtesy of a reply.

I don't condone the deaths of anyone, Israeli or Palestinian, so that is common ground we have. What I have asked is how people on the other side of the argument think Israel should have responded to the Hamas attack.

What I would like to see more than anything is a long-term solution that both sides can live with. I just don't know what that solution looks like.

 

[CNT36]

What I would like to see more than anything is a long-term solution that both sides can live with. I just don't know what that solution looks like.

I'm glad you've had a rethink since yesterday

Sadly my view of this is that there is no solution and "the west" need to choose a side.

 

[mojo pixy]

What I would like to see more than anything is a long-term solution that both sides can live with. I just don't know what that solution looks like.

Nobody really does, but see what's happening there this week? It definitely doesn't look like that.

 

[Kevbad the Bad]

Nicely dodged. I will reply to you when you answer my questions.

In reply to your questions, I don't have definitive answers. How can I? No-one does. But I can recognise wrong answers when I see them.

 

[pug]

Doctors have patients presenting with fourth degree burns and dont know what weapon has caused them.

 

[Gramsci]

Stopped raining and sun's out

 

[Gramsci]

Looks big

 

[Gramsci]

 

[Gramsci]

Any urbanites on march?

 

[8ball]

Doctors have patients presenting with fourth degree burns and dont know what weapon has caused them.

White phosphorus would be the obvious candidate.
IDF has history re: the stuff.

 

[PTK]

How would this work? Who resolves conflicts between Israeli settlers and Palestinians? What happens to the land Israelis have already taken and redeveloped? Something like this is the only feasible long-term solution.

How would you know that? Even if true there is clearly enough who do to get the job done.

No human being have an

How would this work? Who resolves conflicts between Israeli settlers and Palestinians? What happens to the land Israelis have already taken and redeveloped? Something like this is the only feasible long-term solution.

How would you know that? Even if true there is clearly enough who do to get the job done.

No human beings have an instinctual desire to slaughter other groups of humans.
Now piss off, you racist shit.

 

[not-bono-ever]

Surprised it too so long for a pop up hasbara to set camp here tbh

 

[kabbes]

btw I have no idea what a hasbara is and don't intend to look it up.

Let me just explain that to you.

 

[Johnny Vodka]

Thank you for the courtesy of a reply.

I don't condone the deaths of anyone, Israeli or Palestinian, so that is common ground we have. What I have asked is how people on the other side of the argument think Israel should have responded to the Hamas attack.

What I would like to see more than anything is a long-term solution that both sides can live with. I just don't know what that solution looks like.

For a start, Israel could stop stealing Palestinian land and homes.

 

[littlebabyjesus]

Any urbanites on march?

Yep. It's massive. Way bigger than last week. Proper packed all along the route.

 

[Gramsci]

Yep. It's massive. Way bigger than last week. Proper packed all along the route.

Agree. I'm at Trafalgar Square now

 

[littlebabyjesus]

Park lane is still chocker

 

[TopCat]

During Operation Cast Lead, Al Jazeera English was the only English-language news broadcaster who happened to have reporters in Gaza when it started - Sherine Tadros and Ayman Mohyeldin - so of course reports from within Gaza had a relatively limited audience.

Did they make it out?

 

[TopCat]

Some context as there is no explanation with this tweet. I nicked this from a shorter vid: This is an Egyptian podacaster called Rahma Zein confronting CNN reporter Clarissa Ward at the Rafah crossing.

She got told.

 

[TopCat]

Notice how HazeyCosmicJive includes some performative both sidesism and gets a hearing from some even though they are saying the IDF bear no responsibility for civilian deaths.

That “newbie” is a mendacious cunt.

 

[Mr.Bishie]

IDF stretched due to the threat from Hezbollah. I do wonder whether they’ll wait for the IDF to start their incursion, then hit them. It’s not a matter of if, it’s when imo.

IDF have said that no fuel is to enter Gaza, so that’s the hospitals properly fucked.

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