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I don't mind discussing the article, or the Forward as its source. I'd suggest reading a few more of their articles on stuff to get a feel for their voice but not everyone will want to.

I don't use X as I said so can't speak to that sewer or its contents. I'm happy to accept its basically full of awfulness though, that's certainly my expectation.

I'm not sure what specifically it is you want a non-sarcastic chat about after your bit about having your eyes opened by X. You kind of set the tone for us both with that, really.
perhaps by calling x a sewer you are speaking to its contents
 
It just seems quite astonishing that a state undertaking war crimes and crimes against humanity should expect that its citizens would be able to travel without consequence.
There should be severe visa restrictions as enabled to other murderous rogue states such as Myanmar or Sudan. Israelis should be not be allowed visa free access to the EU and UK while their country commits crimes against humanity.
 
the empire was over in 1948? news for the malayans, not to mention the maltese and the various african and pacific possessions
For the British the Empire had become India and with that gone how much they cared about the rest is debatable apart from their rabid anti communism as seen in Malaya.
 
Israel showing zero respect for international law again.



The problem they're gonna have, and the only silver lining of the election, is that Trump will not let Netanyahu stample over his wishes, his ego won't let that happen.

But then who fucking knows what Trump's position is on anything. I saw Sean Spicer being interviewed (former press sec) who was saying nobody in the white house knew wtf the day's policies were gonna be.

But he won't like Benji ignoring his commands that's for sure.
 
Yes, but the prevailing view from politicians like the Shad. HS is that the Dutch hooligans possibly have "no right to be in Europe" and deserve to be deported:



Quite a contrast.

That clip from Telegraph actually shows Israeli Maccabi thugs chasing and attacking a Dutch guy. The woman who filmed it iAnnet, has said that. The Telegraph clip also cuts the end which shows the attackers returning to the main group of Maccabi supporters, being patted on the back by a couple of guys wearing yellow Maccabi jackets. One of the attackers is wearing a yellow Maccabi hat.



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Well the point isn't so much your personal neutrality it's that you look to be edging towards a demand for 'balance' or something along those lines.

Not at all. I don't actually give a shit about 'balance', I expect a challenge for my views. I do though give a shit about antisemitism. I've been fighting this particular fight for years and years, but not at Urban75 till this year because it wasn't really needed here. Now, it definitely is. And yes I admit I may sometimes be too quick to judge, but ffs who here isn't when it comes to racism? Stamp on that shit ASAP.

The problem is that in this particular area, some people here feel themselves targeted, who like to see themselves as paragons of anti-racism, and they resent the idea they might not be as pure as they like to think. But that's OK. A simple thanks for the heads up will do.
 
Not at all. I don't actually give a shit about 'balance', I expect a challenge for my views. I do though give a shit about antisemitism. I've been fighting this particular fight for years and years, but not at Urban75 till this year because it wasn't really needed here. Now, it definitely is.

Anti-semitism seems completely acceptable on here now. I reported one of Boris Sprinkler 's posts earlier and a mod has posted on this thread since; not to give him a warning but to slag off Israel.
 
And, despite meaningless labels of anti semitism, I will continue to criticize the behavior of Israel and its citizens when it will have a direct effect on my life, and that of my children, which, with their warmongering, genocide and posturing in the Middle East and beyond, the knock on effects which we will see for generations, is more than likely. Particularly with that freaky weapons tech they have.
you think I’m bad, go speak to anyone of the people in illegal detention who have been tortured and abused by an illegal occupation. Any orphans whose parents have been killed.
Do you think you will be able to shut them up by claiming they are being antisemitic?
That accusation is wearing thin now.
Nothing short of a miracle will help Israel out of the mess it has created.

Alternatively, to help counter my hateful rhetoric.

“Israeli security minister Itamar Ben-Gvir said in a post on X: "Fans who went to see a football game, encountered anti-Semitism and were attacked with unimaginable cruelty just because of their Jewishness and Israeliness.”


He forgets to mention, the breaking into private properties to remove Palestinian flags, chanting “death to all Arabs” and setting off fireworks and disrupting a 2 minutes silence. Can you think of any other example where football fans have fucked around and found out, and then the prime minister denounces the behavior encountered in return as pogroms?



At least Milwall have the chant no one likes us and we don’t care. And they are shit at football too.
Anti-semitism seems completely acceptable on here now. I reported one of Boris Sprinkler 's posts earlier and a mod has posted on this thread since; not to give him a warning but to slag off Israel.
you were probably unable to explain how it was antisemitism. It’s ok, it’s a really common mistake amongst those who have been trained in pavlovian ways to shout it out like Mel Brooks whenever anyone says that is critical to the cognitive dissonance of the last 75 years.
 
As just this afternoon, without any evidence, you've accused me of antisemitism, i suspect that this claim about the quality of moderation of the forum is also fabricated.

Your post was definitely bigoted. I didn't report it though, many here are. It's long been the way of the left but at least there was a pretence on these boards that things were otherwise. That's gone now.
 
Without wishing to derail. No one mentions why we use the word hooligans anyway. A pejorative label for Irish traveler family who caused trouble in the east end at the beginning of the previous century.
But it sticks to examples of rowdy or unruly behavior. I don’t see any fight back against that term.
See also, thugs.
 
The absolute fucking state of this; drawing parallels between Israeli football hooligans, the Jewish community and the holocaust. In other contexts the right would be screaming about how outright antisemitic this is...

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Indeed. One wonders how many Jewish Ajax fans were attacked in this “pogrom” - certainly the ve seen no reports of anything like that happening.
 
Probably best if you attempt to back up that claim or retract it.

I did. Look at the state of some of what gets posted on here now with nobody except Mojo pulling people on it.

Your post as well. Bigoted claptrap, despite your attempt to back pedal out of it. I rarely stick threads on ignore because of people's views (I've got hundreds on ignore because they're shit, or boring) but this one can get quite revolting. As I said, I only took it off earlier to see if I was right about what you dicks would be posting, and hey presto!

You'll be going back on ignore soon.
 
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