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Notice the use of the word 'approved'
UN says Israel approved reopening of 20 bakeries, water pipeline in northern Gaza
UN says Israel approved reopening of 20 bakeries, water pipeline in northern Gaza
There's a significant difference between critical of Israel governments, their domestic policy, the IDF ... and singling out Jewish people.
The latter is what you have done in several posts. There's little doubt that you are an antisemite.
Is this your first time using nouns?
It was unclear whether the reported withdrawal would delay a long-threatened incursion into the southern Gaza city of Rafah, which Israeli leaders have said is needed to eliminate Hamas.
Israel’s defence minister, Yoav Gallant, sought to emphasise that an operation in Rafah would take place, without giving details.
“The forces are exiting and preparing for their next missions, we saw examples of such missions in the al-Shifa operation, and also of their coming mission in the Rafah area,” Gallant said in a meeting with military officials, according to a statement.
Israel still posturing about an operation in Rafah. Withdrawing troops could signal both a deescalation and an imminent escalation. They're pointedly talking up the latter. But then they've been doing that for weeks now.
Israel ‘pulls out troops’ from southern Gaza as attacks enter seventh month
I don't read it like that. I think it's genuinely on a knife's edge. He's been threatening to go in for so long that something has stopped him so far. Cearly he can't keep threatening it forever and retain credibility, but it seems like he's trying to play both sides.Struggle to see any way for Netanyahu not to go in really, the only support he has is from the Right and they're psychopathic, let them down and he's completely alone. US has already shown that they'll do nothing about it too. Not much hope for deescalation is there?
At the same time, it’s also clear that the general public in Israel supports Netanyahu’s policies. According to a poll conducted by the daily newspaper Israel Hayom, the public is almost equally divided about “which of the two goals of the war is more important”: 46.6 percent prioritized securing the release of hostages, while 44.8 percent said “victory in the war against Hamas” is more important. However, the respondents’ answers also show that a vast majority of the public is not ready to accept the Hamas terms for the release of the abductees.
Another survey conducted by the Israel Democracy Institute (IDI) shows that about two-thirds (63 percent) of the Jewish public do not support Israel agreeing in principle to an independent and demilitarized Palestinian state. T
This is a bit like opinion polls in Russia and Ukraine about their war. It's not surprising that a majority in a country at war, when polled, say that they support that war. But I'm not sure what relevance that has. What do we do with this rather general phenomenon that people tend to get behind 'their troops' in times of war, however terrible what is being done in their name might be? Particularly when Israelis right now have to make an effort to find anything in their media that isn't spewing propaganda at them.Opinion polls show little support for Netanyahu but support for the ongoing war by IDF in Gaza.
This article goes over opinion polls.
Netanyahu might be losing ground, but his politics still resonate with most Israelis
Polls show that the Israeli public is torn on many issues, but trust in Netanyahu’s government is not one of them.www.atlanticcouncil.org
Whilst low support for Netanyahu :
And:
Going on about about Netanyahu is all very well. And a lot of Israelis for reasons that go back a long way preceding this recent conflict think he should go.
If he ever goes that does not mean that some of the things his government have been doing will stop.
This is not about getting rid of this particular hard right government or Netanyahu as though that will solve everything. Joe Public in Israel might hammer Netanyahu if election comes up but they do not necessarily want the policies to stop.
I have wondered if Netanyahu and his criminal gang were hoping Egypt would open the Rafah gate and allow people to escape, thus ethnically cleansing Gaza and clearing the way for settlements.It is naive to think ousting Netanyahu will mean anything beyond some new faces in the next ultra right wing Israeli Regime.
"A January poll of Jewish Israelis found 88% thought that the shocking death toll in Gaza – then 25,000 people – was justified, and a majority said the Israel Defense Forces were using either “adequate” or “too little” force. Another recent IDI poll found that two-thirds of Jewish Israelis were opposed to the establishment of an independent, demilitarised Palestinian state."
Hatred in both sides is baked in and it's apparent that the majority in Israel don't see Palestinians as people but as a collective that needs to be destroyed.
You don't hear of many polls out of Palestine but hard to imagine they feel anything other than hate for Israel
Constant claims from Israel that they are going after Hamas only ....well its Bullshit and the world knows
Well to be fair FF also very much behind Palestine and were for months before Simon Harris shouted about it. He does like to shout.Grudging respect for the otherwise awful FG
Harris tells Israeli PM that Ireland is repulsed by his actions
Mr Harris said that Ireland stands ready to recognise the Palestinian state while calling for a two-state solutionwww.irishexaminer.com
This Sky news?
Withdrawing troops could signal both a deescalation and an imminent escalation.
Initially, Ireland was actually in favour of the idea of Zionism but that changed after what was done to the Palestinian people. The only full on supporters of Israeli aggression now, in Ireland, are right wingers. At least, if you are unlucky enough to follow Irish social media lately.Well to be fair FF also very much behind Palestine and were for months before Simon Harris shouted about it. He does like to shout.
SF also behind Palestine for decades.
Nobody is against Palestine.here.
Ireland has always had an affinity with Palestine. My grandmother used to refer to them as "the poor Palestinians" as she recalled the time of the Nakba. So.. yeah.. Ireland historically has supported Palestinians. And the Palestinian cause for their own freedom.
Not seen anything at all in Ireland that is pro Netanyahu or pro what IDF is doing in Gaza.Initially, Ireland was actually in favour of the idea of Zionism but that changed after what was done to the Palestinian people. The only full on supporters of Israeli aggression now, in Ireland, are right wingers. At least, if you are unlucky enough to follow Irish social media lately.
i think there's a lot of people in ireland who are pro netanyahu getting what he richly deservesNot seen anything at all in Ireland that is pro Netanyahu or pro what IDF is doing in Gaza.
Where are you looking?
My optimism has proved wrong before, but I think striking Rafah is becoming decreasingly likely. This doesn't feel like the initial ceasefire. Israel no longer has the likes of the US and Germany fully on its side. It can't so easily summon up memories of 7 October to justify its slaughter.This is what I've also been really worrying about. Withdrawal of troops in order to keep the IDF safe whilst at the same time loading up for a massive air strike on Rafah.
I do not believe Netanyahu is just going to pull back.
This is back when the state of Israel was starting up. Support for the state later faded. There's better sources than the admittedly pro-zionist chronicle, which I'll try to findNot seen anything at all in Ireland that is pro Netanyahu or pro what IDF is doing in Gaza.
Where are you looking?
Here's another one closer to homeThis is back when the state of Israel was starting up. Support for the state later faded. There's better sources than the admittedly pro-zionist chronicle, which I'll try to find
Does Ireland support Israel? How the Emerald Isle fell out of love with Jews
From supporting the overthrow of the British to leading condemnation at the EU in just decadeswww.thejc.com
It is naive to think ousting Netanyahu will mean anything beyond some new faces in the next ultra right wing Israeli Regime.
"A January poll of Jewish Israelis found 88% thought that the shocking death toll in Gaza – then 25,000 people – was justified, and a majority said the Israel Defense Forces were using either “adequate” or “too little” force. Another recent IDI poll found that two-thirds of Jewish Israelis were opposed to the establishment of an independent, demilitarised Palestinian state."
Hatred in both sides is baked in and it's apparent that the majority in Israel don't see Palestinians as people but as a collective that needs to be destroyed.
You don't hear of many polls out of Palestine but hard to imagine they feel anything other than hate for Israel
Constant claims from Israel that they are going after Hamas only ....well its Bullshit and the world knows
I have wondered if Netanyahu and his criminal gang were hoping Egypt would open the Rafah gate and allow people to escape, thus ethnically cleansing Gaza and clearing the way for settlements.
I thought I'd seen a news item some weeks ago, saying Egypt were building a structure on their side of the border with Gaza; the implication (I thought) was that they would take in Palestinians fleeing the IDF terror, but keep them corralled in a refugee camp.
Haven't been able to find any further info about this; does anyone recall seeing such an article?
Or is Egypt allowing Gazan refugees in, but only on exceptional medical grounds?
I know it seems insurmountable when looking at such polling, but I do wonder how permanent the views in that polling are. October 7th was a massacre, a revolt and all the other things but it was also the absolute and irrevocable failure of a policy that the government has followed for much of the past thirty to forty years, and especially under Netanyahu's regime.