Hamas/Israel conflict: news and discussion
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littlebabyjesus
one of Maxwell's demons
Threatening to call the transport police. Classy.
Larry O'Hara
Well-Known Member
I admire your belief in the humanity of the US govt. but disagree: they dont care
Nylock
I hate 'these days'...
If it proves correct, the veto will still be deployed...
Larry O'Hara
Well-Known Member
To be fair no evidence he called for them: they were already there. Sensible, as it's not every day a genocide-enabler travels on public transport…
PTK
Paul Kegan
Well done, that man.
The39thStep
Urban critical thinker
Wonder what to make of this?
'The German government wants to campaign for the first time in the EU for sanctions against radical Jewish settlers in the occupied West Bank. This will be brought forward at the EU foreign ministers' meeting next Monday, a spokesman for the Foreign Office announced in Berlin on Wednesday.'
There is some small print which seems to imply that such sanction could run parallel with sanctions against Hamas
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'The German government wants to campaign for the first time in the EU for sanctions against radical Jewish settlers in the occupied West Bank. This will be brought forward at the EU foreign ministers' meeting next Monday, a spokesman for the Foreign Office announced in Berlin on Wednesday.'
There is some small print which seems to imply that such sanction could run parallel with sanctions against Hamas
You'll need chrome to translate from German
Bundesregierung will erschwerte Einreise für radikale jüdische Siedler - WELT
Regelmäßig bedrohen oder töten radikale jüdische Siedler im Westjordanland Palästinenser. Deutschland kritisiert das Verhalten als „völlig inakzeptabel“ und will nun erstmals Einreisebeschränkungen auf EU-Ebene diskutieren. Anderswo wird die Maßnahme bereits umgesetzt.
SpookyFrank
A cheap source of teeth for aquarium gravel
Dunno what right his goons think they have to manhandle anyone out of a public train carriage.
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
Even if they were hamas - I'm not suggesting or saying they were - even if they were surrendered hamas fighters, killing them would prevent others making the same mistake. And as they were civilians kidnapped and it seems summarily murdered - what else is it but a war crime and genocide in action? There's no answer but the zionist entity must be destroyed and some equitable polity replace it and the Palestinian Authority throughout the lands of the ze, gaza and the wb
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
They could bore them off the train
Nylock
I hate 'these days'...
Laudable though it may be, you just know the extremist settlers will absolutely make hay out of it. Along the lines of "see, the Germans are at it again!" ...whilst conveniently ignoring/minimising the sanctions being equally imposed vs Hamas...Wonder what to make of this?
'The German government wants to campaign for the first time in the EU for sanctions against radical Jewish settlers in the occupied West Bank. This will be brought forward at the EU foreign ministers' meeting next Monday, a spokesman for the Foreign Office announced in Berlin on Wednesday.'
There is some small print which seems to imply that such sanction could run parallel with sanctions against Hamas
You'll need chrome to translate from German
Bundesregierung will erschwerte Einreise für radikale jüdische Siedler - WELT
Regelmäßig bedrohen oder töten radikale jüdische Siedler im Westjordanland Palästinenser. Deutschland kritisiert das Verhalten als „völlig inakzeptabel“ und will nun erstmals Einreisebeschränkungen auf EU-Ebene diskutieren. Anderswo wird die Maßnahme bereits umgesetzt.
Ax^
Silly Rabbit
he is mates with modi so it feels quite natural to him
The39thStep
Urban critical thinker
The US did the same a couple of days ago apparently. However, I'm not sure where the motivation within Germany has come from or how it fits with Germany's current internal and external policies regarding the conflict. For example, applicants for citizenship in Saxon-Anhalt will have to commit to their belief in Israel’s right to exist.
WhyLikeThis
Something, something, something
The person who wrote this was apparently killed today
Boris Sprinkler
Dont be scared
Can you please stop posting such inflammatory antisemitism?
WhyLikeThis
Something, something, something
This is the author of that poem
WhyLikeThis
Something, something, something
He was an English Lit academic. Here’s his youtube channel where he used to post some videos of his lectures.
Of all the horrors we’ve witnessed, for me, this has broken the camels back.
WhyLikeThis
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Gramsci
Well-Known Member
Im not saying I agree with it.
Trying to look at what IDF tactics are and what IDF/ government think they are doing.
The Dahiya doctrine was first developed to combat Hezbolloh.
My reason for bringing it up is that our leaders Biden and people like Starmer say they support Israels right to defend itself but add it has to be proportionate.
The whole point of IDF military strategy endorsed by Israel governments is that it is not supposed to be proportionate.
Our leaders advisors must know this. Yet the same line is trotted out.
Secondly what Ive been quoting is not conspiracy loon stuff or hidden from public view. Its out their on public view and Israel arent denying it.
That is destroying civilian infrastructure/ killing civilians and not engaging in a proportionate war.
These are things that imo should be referred to the ICC.
Listening to to Al Jazeera last night and attempts to refer Israel to ICC have made little progress in last nine years.
Contrast with Putin.
What gets me is that one does not have to go for conspiracy loon stuff.
In plain view and in the proven history of Israel as a state it has oppressed the indigenous people the Palestinians to set up a state for itself.
Racism is built into the Israeli state from its founding.
Larry O'Hara
Well-Known Member
Yes, in the course of this conflict I have moved to a one state solution
WhyLikeThis
Something, something, something
More destroyed terrorists
teqniq
DisMembered
I have very belatedly realised I followed this guy, and he in fact followed me (goodness knows why). I did not realise he was an academic, so very sad. Which brings me to something which I have seen touched on on Twitter and now it seems rather obvious to me. There is a deliberate strategy being conducted here to erase Palestinian society and culture from Gaza. Academics, journalists and healthcare professionals; anyone who can speak for or care for ordinary Palestinian people are being deliberately targeted. On top of that we have this:
'Israel destroyed Central Archives of Gaza City': Head of Gaza Municipality
Just in case anyone was under any misapprehension as to what is going on here.
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Gramsci
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Take your point.
Its not a foregone conclusion that the IDF strategy is working. Whilst causing huge civilian deaths and casualties is there evidence that Hamas military capacity been much reduced?
Was watching Inside Story on Al Jazeera tonight.
It was about weapons supplies and counter insurgency strategy.
One person on it said the IDF Iron Fist approach historically does not work.
The pronouncement at beginning of this from Israel that they would destroy Hamas was a mistake.
All Hamas fighters have to do know is hang on in there and survive in order to claim a victory.
Against this all the people on it said that without steady supplies of weapons/ spare parts for fighter jets etc Israel could not continue this war at this level.
Biden and the west countries could easily stop Israel. Just stop supplying them. They wont do that.
Third thing the person from the campaign against arms trade reckoned some politicians could be held up as aiding and abetting war crimes for helping Israel obtain military hardware that is used in Gaza
PTK
Paul Kegan
It is not antisemitism.
8ball
Maximum Facepalm
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