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For decades the UK government tried to deal with Irish Republicans in Northern Ireland with escalating violence. It didn't work. It didn't work as a Spanish response to ETA, and it didn't work against FARC in Colombia. French attempts to deter independence movements in their colonies by a policy of extremely violent responses to attacks led to France losing control of pretty much all of its colonies. Attempting to deter a violent response from oppressed people by escalating the violence has failed consistently throughout history. All that has EVER led to an end to violence in such situations is negotiation and compromise. Damn right. Nobody wins... except the demagogues trying to hold on to power by preaching vengeance, and the arms industry.
Isn't a difference that in the other historical instances the oppressing state still wanted the populations as part of the post-conflict settlement, but Israel will take the land with the people dead or gone.
I'm not sure how much that applies to Northern Ireland. Certainly the historical position of UK governments has been that Irish people are entirely disposable, and while I'm not as au fait with the details of French political history, I'm not convinced there was much interest in keeping the populations of the French colonies alive either, so long as the resources could be plundered. Incidentally I'm not particularly singling out France here, they just differed from Britain, Spain, Portugal, Germany, Italy, and the Netherlands by hanging on to their colonies for longer.
You don't think sunak and braverman and the rest of that sordid crew would miss a chance to participate in genocide surely.
A link for Strategic Hamlets or the person who was talking about creating 'secure hamlets'? I can't remember. Sorry. I heard out of the "corner of my ear" so to speak. In fact, it may have been some retired British general who said it.Have you a link for that. Id be interested.
I read about this in Forgotten Wars
Forgotten Wars — Harvard University Press
In September 1945, after the fall of the atomic bomb--and with it, the Japanese empire--Asia was dominated by the British. Governing a vast crescent of land that stretched from India through Burma and down to Singapore, and with troops occupying the French and Dutch colonies in southern Vietnam...www.hup.harvard.edu
The British army had experience in dealing with rebellions.
I dont know much about the Arab Revolt but some of the same kind of techniques were used in that.
Legacy of Violence goes into the links between different parts of Empire and the knowledge that British built up to keep the colonial people in line.
Legacy of Violence
A NEW YORK TIMES, NEW STATESMAN, HISTORY TODAY AND BBC HISTORY MAGAZINE BOOK OF THE YEAR 'Masterly... This book is dynamite' - ROBERT GILDEA, author of Empires of the Mind **Shortlisted for the Baillie Gifford Prize** **Winner of the NYU/Axinn Foundation Prize** A searing, landmark study of...www.penguin.co.uk
The Zionists learnt a lot from the British. The early origins of the Israel military was working with Orde Wingate to help put down the Arab Revolt.
Im curious an Israeli commander mentions Malaysia. And wonder how much British knowledge on dealing with colonial people has been passed down to IDF
I it certainly worth considering how the statistics are collected and if the Jewish/Muslim 'incidents' are being recorded the same way.
than frightened of the possibility.
tellmamauk.org
It looks broadly similar to the numbers from the Jewish group.My MP in email said report anti Muslim abuse to this organisation.
Here is their statement
Tell MAMA received 400 anti-Muslim cases between October 7 and October 24
Tell MAMA recorded a six-fold increase in anti-Muslim cases between October 7 and October 24 compared to the same period in 2022. We logged 400 cases (191 offline and 209 online, respectively) compared to 67 cases (both online and offline) the previous year.
I'm not expert on stats so not clear how representative this is
Did I use the word hero? I said it was a successful war of national liberation. No different from many other similar conflicts; many of which have had similarly brutal aftermaths.
....which misses the central dynamic point that Netanyahu supports the existence of Hamas as it enables the wider project
Opinion: There’s a smarter way to eliminate Hamas — CNN
Israel’s strategy for defeating Hamas — destroying its military and political capabilities to the point where the terrorist group can never again launch major attacks against Israeli civilians — is unlikely to work, writes Robert A. Pape.apple.news
Well yeah but the chance for that was up decades ago, there is WAY too much hate on both sides now for peaceful solutions to get anywhere. A much more interesting story on the same page is the fact that Israel are getting all mardy with The Emperor of Mars over his plan to provide internet connectivity via Starlink to Gaza. A similar thing happened with Ukraine. Wer are now in a position where single individuals now have so much wealth and power that they can overrule national governments.Opinion: There’s a smarter way to eliminate Hamas — CNN
Israel’s strategy for defeating Hamas — destroying its military and political capabilities to the point where the terrorist group can never again launch major attacks against Israeli civilians — is unlikely to work, writes Robert A. Pape.
