Hamas/Israel conflict: news and discussion

[beesonthewhatnow]

The world has gone fucking mad.

 

[Pickman's model]

The world has gone fucking mad.

I've never heard of this blue octopus thing, don't suppose it's common knowledge anywhere.

 

[Magnus McGinty]

I thought it was serpents wrapped round the globe, not octopus tentacles.

 

[Pickman's model]

I thought it was serpents wrapped round the globe, not octopus tentacles.

It's Churchill as a jewish-controlled octopus. According to Wikipedia anyway

 

[teqniq]

The German guy who originally spread this bullshit has since deleted the post because he got rightfully derided for it.

 

[Magnus McGinty]

It's Churchill as a jewish-controlled octopus. According to Wikipedia anyway

There’s images on google that suggests it is. Not going to link here. I searched antisemitic octopus.

 

[Pickman's model]

A larger version of the image

 

[Pickman's model]

There’s images on google that suggests it is. Not going to link here. I searched antisemitic octopus.

Not going to link to it either tho it can be found in Wikipedia's article on anti-semitic tropes

 

[platinumsage]

She's presumably naive about the whole thing, considering this, but influencers can't help sticking their oar in.

 

[beesonthewhatnow]

Well, my kids have those little mood swapping octopus plush thingies. They must be terrible anti-semites too

 

[kabbes]

Sometimes an octopus is just an octopus

 

[teqniq]

The embedded post is in Hebrew. I used the translate function below. I can't say I am surprised, it's probably one of the main reasons they want everyone to move to the south of the strip. Absolute scumbags:

Position paper: A plan for resettlement and final rehabilitation in Egypt of the entire population of Gaza: economic aspects by Amir Weitman Main points:• There is currently a unique and rare opportunity to evacuate the entire Gaza Strip in coordination with the Egyptian government. An immediate, realistic and sustainable plan for the resettlement and humanitarian rehabilitation of the entire Arab population in the Gaza Strip is required which aligns well with the economic and geopolitical interests of Israel, Egypt, the USA and Saudi Arabia.• In 2017, it was reported that there are about 10 million vacant housing units in Egypt, of which about half are built and half are under construction. For example, in the two largest satellite cities of Cairo, "The 6th of October" and "The 10th of Ramadan", there is a huge amount of built and empty apartments owned by the government and privately and construction areas sufficient to house about 6 million inhabitants.• The average cost of a 3-room apartment with an area of 95 square meters for an average Gazan family consisting of 5.14 people in one of the two cities indicated above is about $19,000. Taking into account the currently known size of the entire population living in the Gaza Strip, which ranges from about 1.4 For approximately 2.2 million people, it can be estimated that the total amount that will be required to be transferred to Egypt to finance the project will be on the order of 5 to 8 billion dollars.• Throwing an immediate stimulus at such a height to the Egyptian economy would provide a tremendous and immediate benefit to al-Sisi's regime. These sums of money, in relation to the Israeli economy, are minimal. Investing a few billion dollars (even if it is 20 or 30 billion dollars) to solve this difficult issue is an innovative, cheap and sustainable solution.• There is no doubt that in order for this plan to come to fruition, many conditions must exist at the same time. Currently, these conditions are met and it is unclear when such an opportunity will arise again, if ever.To read the full paper:

 

[Pickman's model]

She's presumably naive about the whole thing, considering this, but influencers can't help sticking their oar in.

Despite your pious whine about posting facts and being neutral earlier in the thread there's not a single fact in your not very neutral post

 

[Idris2002]

Great idea guys! That'll work!

E2a in response to the post by teqniq

 

[Pickman's model]

Picture showing all 4 women. Sorry about the red circle

 

[Mr.Bishie]

Morning recap from MEE:


Israel has bombed Gaza, Jenin, Syria and Lebanon in overnight air strikes as we go into the third week of the ongoing conflict in the region.

The air strikes in Jenin and southern Lebanon mark a new escalation by the Israeli military, which has been bombing Gaza round the clock for over two weeks.

Alongside the air strike in Jenin, Israeli troops have ramped up raids in the occupied West Bank, including in Jenin, Nablus and Ramallah.

Here's some update you might've missed:

• Overnight shelling in Gaza has killed at least 50 Palestinians. Israel has been killing an average of 300 people a day in Gaza since 7 October, 70 percent of whom are children, women and elderly people.
• Israel bombed a mosque in the Jenin refugee camp at around 3am local time, killing at least two people with another three killed elsewhere in the West Bank.
• An Israeli missile attack targeted Damascus and Aleppo international airports in Syria, killing at least one person and putting the airports out of service.
• The Israeli army said it carried out air strikes against Hezbollah targets in southern Lebanon as tensions continue to build up on that front.
• Israeli authorities are planning to evacuate 14 communities close to the Lebanese border after previously evacuating 28 towns.
• The US military is deploying a Terminal High Altitude Area Defence (Thaad) battery and multiple Patriot missile defence systems to the Middle East as it continues its military support of Israel.
• The UK-based charity Medical Aid for Palestinians posted on X that the lives of 130 premature babies in Gaza's hospitals are in danger if fuel does not reach the hospitals soon.

 

[Chz]

Sometimes an octopus is just an octopus

Best turn it into a lobster. Just to be safe.

 

[mojo pixy]

The embedded post is in Hebrew. I used the translate function below. I can't say I am surprised, it's probably one of the main reasons they want everyone to move to the south of the strip. Absolute scumbags:

I can hear it already in near future news interviews with Regev, Hotovley, ... "You say, stop the boats, we say, stop the bombs!"

I can see this plan unfolding and the entire world just going with it. Depressing as fuck.

 

[Ax^]

The world has gone fucking mad.

jesus the op twitter user is a dumpster fire of hate

 

[nino_savatte]

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You're projecting, chief. It's you who doesn't have an argument. Furthermore, where's the ad hominem? Telling you to engage your brain isn't an ad hominem.

 

[The39thStep]

Its worse than we think

 

[kabbes]

The embedded post is in Hebrew. I used the translate function below. I can't say I am surprised, it's probably one of the main reasons they want everyone to move to the south of the strip. Absolute scumbags:

This paper is what happens when economic representations displace all other forms of knowing and understanding the world. Under such systems of representation, human beings become uniform, quantifiable and interchangeable units that can be reorganised and redeployed into different contexts with no repercussions beyond an exchange value that you can calculate and weigh against other exchange values. If you want a true definition of psychopathy, it isn’t in violent hate crime. It’s in this paper.

 

[deeyo]

The world has gone fucking mad.

gretas octopus is grey, not blue. still, its gotta be anti semitic somehow.
maybe its a subtle allusion to israels octopus doctrine

Israel’s prime minister explains his new approach to Iran

Naftali Bennett tells The Economist how he aims to keep his country safe

www.economist.com

Israel’s Octopus Doctrine is a sharp and consistent warning to Iran -analysis

Mossad Director David Barnea's comments indicate that the Iranian leadership needs to understand that its attacks against Israel, or Israelis abroad, will not go unpunished.

m.jpost.com

maybe it's a threat to the people partying at the

Octopus Club Tel Aviv

www.touryourway.com

or to the programmers of

https://www.f6s.com/company/secretdoubleoctopus

surely it can't have anything to do with the research on cephalopods done at the hebrew university of jerusalem?

Hebrew University research on octopuses sheds light on memory

Research on octopuses has shed new light on how our brains store and recall memory, says Dr. Benny Hochner of the Department of Neurobiology at the Alexander Silberman Institute of Life Sciences at the Hebrew University of Jerusalem.

www.eurekalert.org

Could octopuses have more than one brain? - Hebrew U. study

A new Hebrew University study recently examined the possibility that octopuses, known to be among the most intelligent of invertebrates, could have

www.afhu.org

The octopus research group at the Hebrew University of Jerusalem

web.archive.org

(their homepage is down, btw. i guess they realised it was anti semitic.)

https://www.imj.org.il/en/collections/371933-0

 

[strung out]

The pathology reports on the victims of the Hamas attacks are being made public now. Confirmation of the beheadings, torture and executions by a team of Israeli and international volunteers.

Warning - graphic images in link: Evidence on Display at Israel’s Forensic Pathology Center Confirms Hamas’ Atrocities - The Media Line

Kugel also explained that the age range of the victims spans from 3 months to 80 or 90 years old. Many bodies, including those of babies, are without heads.

Asked if they were decapitated, Kugel answered yes. Although he admits that, given the circumstances, it’s difficult to ascertain whether they were decapitated before or after death, as well as how they were beheaded, “whether cut off by knife or blown off by RPG,” he explained.

 

[mojo pixy]

Sorry btw to quote myself but I wrote ^^

All the best Israelis seem to end up leaving, which only exacerbates the problems as the people who remain tend of course to be the more nationalistic ones.

That comes across as really judgemental but all I meant was, peace activism in Israel is not just difficult but increasingly actually dangerous, so people leave. Also police and political corruption there is really bad, and then again it's so small you can never really get off the state's radar if you fall foul of it. So many really active activists have little choice but to leave if they actually want to go on being active.

There are plenty of good people left inside the country, obviously there are. Brave too, because expression of dissent is harder and harder all the time, the police are less and less tolerant of pushback, and just like here laws are being tightened constantly. But at the moment we aren't going to be hearing much liberality coming from inside Israel, you know what its like after some terrorist horror, 'now is not the time, act now reflect later' etc. Maybe if and when more international opinion starts to turn against Israeli actions, but not yet.

 

[kabbes]

Sorry btw to quote myself but I wrote ^^


That comes across as really judgemental but all I meant was, peace activism in Israel is not just difficult but increasingly actually dangerous, so people leave. Also police and political corruption there is really bad, and then again it's so small you can never really get off the state's radar if you fall foul of it. So many really active activists have little choice but to leave if they actually want to go on being active.

There are plenty of good people left inside the country, obviously there are. Brave too, because expression of dissent is harder and harder all the time, the police are less and less tolerant of pushback, and just like here laws are being tightened constantly. But at the moment we aren't going to be hearing much liberality coming from inside Israel, you know what its like after some terrorist horror, 'now is not the time, act now reflect later' etc. Maybe if and when more international opinion starts to turn against Israeli actions, but not yet.

Sure. It’s not surprising that we’d see the processes of Person–environment fit at work in such a hierarchical environment

 

[andysays]

Follow up from yesterday's story of the Tube driver posted on Xitter and quoted above

Police investigate London Tube driver's pro-Palestinian chant​

Police and Transport for London (TfL) are investigating after a London Tube driver appeared to chant pro-Palestinian slogans on a train. An unverified video circulating online appears to show a Central line driver chanting "free Palestine" over the train's public address system. Passengers en-route to a pro-Palestinian march joined in chanting. British Transport Police (BTP) and TfL said they were urgently investigating the incident.

 

[The39thStep]

Follow up from yesterday's story of the Tube driver posted on Xitter and quoted above

Police investigate London Tube driver's pro-Palestinian chant​

Wouldn't the employer normally investigate a complaint like this ?

 

[TomUS]

Cancel culture that somehow seems to be completely acceptable. What a fucking disgrace.

Pro-Palestinian views face suppression in US amid Israel-Hamas war

Conferences have been abruptly cancelled, media appearances suppressed and demands made to fire critics of Israeli policies

www.theguardian.com

Apologies if previously posted.

This kind of stuff is widespread in the US. Criticism of Israel or support for Palestinians is simply not tolerated. But there are many, mostly younger people/students who haven't been deluged with pro Israel propaganda for years who are taking chances to speak out. Some employers vow to find out who they are to make sure they don't get hired.

 

[teqniq]

Fair play to her: