Johnny Vodka
The Abominable Scotsman
Well, this is nice... why not just nuke the place and be done with it? It seems pretty much what Israel wants and at least it would get a few points for honesty.
Hamas/Israel conflict: news and discussion
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WhyLikeThis
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No longer SWP but close enough for the estimate…
Plod say 100,000 x 2 = 200,000
STWC Oberführer says 300k “but closer to half a million” - Let’s call this 400k give or take. Half the Trot estimate and I think the “WhyLikeThis Equation” holds up.
200,000
Plod say 100,000 x 2 = 200,000
STWC Oberführer says 300k “but closer to half a million” - Let’s call this 400k give or take. Half the Trot estimate and I think the “WhyLikeThis Equation” holds up.
200,000
Ax^
Silly Rabbit
PTK
Paul Kegan
Or: (300,000 + 100,000) / 2 = 200,000
Chz
Stark Raving Sane
I would give that zero credence. They know from experience what their losses will roughly be and there's no way it's even approaching a number that would hold them back if invading is what they want to do. The major news sources have been reporting a lot of high level diplomacy going on with Israel and the Saudis, Egyptians, et.al (not Iran, obviously). They're biding their time to see what comes up. What that is is pure speculation. I expect the Arab states are more concerned for their own stability than the Palestinians, but they can't ignore them right now.
As pointed out earlier in the thread, the whole of Gaza is about the size of East London. Even if every single Palestinian were a Hamas zealot like they'd have you believe, the place would be razed inside a day.
Perhaps buses. Pretty sure it doesn't happen with the tube though.
ska invita
back on the other side
They're busy starving the "animals"
Idris2002
canadian girlfriend
I read that the rescue parties they sent in to liberate the hostages got their backsides handed to them. No idea if that's true or not.
Not sure why I was quoted there.
planetgeli
There's no future in England's dreaming
Lord Camomile
Yipchaa!
Fucking hell...
I know it's not quite this simple, but it is weird how often people reacting to aggression with aggression think that their aggression will make things safer.
Idris2002
canadian girlfriend
The thoughts of Chairman McGinty are quoted in the hearts of millions.
Ax^
Silly Rabbit
mojo pixy
...שלא נמצא בשמאל
Eric Jarvis
Well-Known Member
It's all about how you define "civilian". Obviously by Regev's definition any structure hit by an IDF missile has taken part in a military action through being destroyed and was therefore a military structure. To be civilian it would need to have not taken part in the conflict by being obliterated. See. It's easy if you have neither scruples nor conscience.
Eric Jarvis
Well-Known Member
It doesn't really matter. It's always lots, impressive, small, or pitiful, and that isn't really about absolute numbers. The demos have shown that the propaganda isn't entirely working. That's the important thing. There are plenty of people in the UK who aren't the unthinking unfeeling bastards the establishment assume we are.
Bingoman
Well-Known Member
Anyone got any idea why Israel rejected the hostage release?
www.reuters.com
Israel calls Hamas' claim it rejected hostage release 'propaganda'
Israel on Saturday described as "propaganda" a claim by Hamas that the militant group had wanted to release two more hostages on humanitarian grounds but that Israel declined to receive them.
8ball
Decolonise colons!
Anyone got any idea why Israel rejected the hostage release?
Israel calls Hamas' claim it rejected hostage release 'propaganda'
Israel on Saturday described as "propaganda" a claim by Hamas that the militant group had wanted to release two more hostages on humanitarian grounds but that Israel declined to receive them.
Wouldn’t be like Hamas to lie..
Ax^
Silly Rabbit
Anyone got any idea why Israel rejected the hostage release?
Israel calls Hamas' claim it rejected hostage release 'propaganda'
Israel on Saturday described as "propaganda" a claim by Hamas that the militant group had wanted to release two more hostages on humanitarian grounds but that Israel declined to receive them.
depend who they are ..
PTK
Paul Kegan
I have no idea why two parties with which I have no contact did something that may not have happened.Anyone got any idea why Israel rejected the hostage release?
Israel calls Hamas' claim it rejected hostage release 'propaganda'
Israel on Saturday described as "propaganda" a claim by Hamas that the militant group had wanted to release two more hostages on humanitarian grounds but that Israel declined to receive them.
emanymton
A cat politely sat on the flaming gardener.
Incompetence?
two sheds
Least noticed poster 2007
Sunak and Starmer probably see it as 100,000 turned out, 67 million didn't
deeyo
hurled unheard to this world.
an appropriate & proportionate response could have been:
1) neutralise the al quassam fighters still in israel, preferably by capturing them alive so they could be tried & sentenced for their crimes.
2) the israeli government resigning over their failure to keep their people safe
3) demands to the gazan authorities to investigate and bring those responsible for the massacre to justice.
4) lifting of the illegal & inhumanitarian blockade of gaza & economic compensation for the years of suffering + rebuilding of the crushed infrastructure of gaza
5) demands of the immediate release of the israeli hostages & the kidnappers brought to justice.
6) the immediate release of the thousands of political palestinian prisoners held in israel.
& so on. perhaps there could have been a peaceful solution somewhere down the line, instead of maimed children & more dead bodies.
Mr.Bishie
pickled egg
Anyone got any idea why Israel rejected the hostage release?
Israel calls Hamas' claim it rejected hostage release 'propaganda'
Israel on Saturday described as "propaganda" a claim by Hamas that the militant group had wanted to release two more hostages on humanitarian grounds but that Israel declined to receive them.
“”32 minutes ago MEE
Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu's office said they "will not respond" to Hamas' statement that they offered to release two Israeli captives without condition but Israel refused to receive them.
According to Israeli media, Netanyahu's bureau said: "We will continue to do everything possible to return all the hostages and missing home."
Hamas' Qassam Brigades have announced that they were ready to release the two captives on Sunday, following the same process that was used to release two American captives previously.””
They’re not going to stop the bombing of Gaza, or do deals with Hamas. In other words, fuck the hostages?
Gramsci
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March for Palestine 21st October 2023/ photos
www.urban75.net
My photos from todays march.
WhyLikeThis
Something, something, something
See the Hannibal Directive: The controversial military doctrines Israel could already be using in Gaza
Gramsci
Well-Known Member
Bit harsh. Im not a Trot but the Trots did a lot over organizing anti Iraq war demos etc. Given the Labour party under Starmer have effectively banned any public support for these demos Im glad Trots etc are putting in the work to make them happen
What does surprise me is leading lights of STW are now Counterfire- Chris Nineham and Lindsey German . Yet the biggest turnouts at demos like this and stalls are SWP.
Last week the Counterfire stall looked a bit sad compared to the big SWP and Bookmarks stalls.
WhyLikeThis
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Legend
Police investigate London Tube driver's pro-Palestinian chant
Unverified video of a "free Palestine" chant on the train's intercom is investigated by authorities.
www.bbc.co.uk
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