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So is there a ratio of revenge we can refer to ? 5 of them other citizens dead per mortality 10 ? 20 ?
This is appalling
This is appalling
That being the case it is difficult to see why the British put so much effort into trying to keep jews out and into fighting against the zionistsYou omit the history or empire. After the collapse of the Ottoman Empire, Britain wanted to ensure it had influence over one constant, and there wasn't an arabic (or Persian) country that hadn't been fucked over by us, so it needed somewhere. And what better place than where there was already a 'mandate'? Being able to use it to split other arabic nations was just a bonus.
Deleted potted history of Mark Regev.
Thanks for this. I did wonder but thought it might be conspiracy loon stuff to think that British military and Israeli military work so closely. In a official if secret way.
As this is secret their has been no democratic oversight of it. Which is appalling. Britain hardly can say it has a neutral role in this ongoing conflict.
I think its scandalous, if not surprising , the British military work with Israel army.
Historically the British taught the Zionists some of their well honed techniques for keeping the Palestinians in line. During Arab Revolt in 1930s Orde Wingate feared Night Squads included Zionists. Collective punishment/ detention all learnt from British.
In some ways I'd say that IDF operate like a colonial army. And always have.
This is genocide, pure and simple.At least 500 dead. The live youtube feed from al-Jazeera is heartbreaking
Soz the ottoman empire fell in 1924. When was it the British left Egypt and Sudan? You talk about the history but you're playing rather fast and loose with it yourselfYou omit the history or empire. After the collapse of the Ottoman Empire, Britain wanted to ensure it had influence over one constant, and there wasn't an arabic (or Persian) country that hadn't been fucked over by us, so it needed somewhere. And what better place than where there was already a 'mandate'? Being able to use it to split other arabic nations was just a bonus.
I did not ’omit’ as such, just didn’t write a historical essay spanning pages, which is what a full answer would require. I’ll know not to bother next time: eg I could accuse you of ‘omitting’ Iran and so on etc etc. But as stated, won’t bother next timeYou omit the history or empire. After the collapse of the Ottoman Empire, Britain wanted to ensure it had influence over one constant, and there wasn't an arabic (or Persian) country that hadn't been fucked over by us, so it needed somewhere. And what better place than where there was already a 'mandate'? Being able to use it to split other arabic nations was just a bonus.
In case you don't trust the source I posted which also says the same thing as quoted below, it links to this site which says:When you say secret do you mean 'i don't read anything about defence and intelligence'...?
The UK defence sector has had a relationship with Israel since the formation of the state - industrial, training, intelligence, equipment - all very public, not secret, debated in parliament (particularly a UAV called Watchkeeper, which has turned out to be an expensive mistake).
Stuff you don't read isn't a secret.
And not just predictable but actually predicted: Starmer and his crew are knee-deep in Palestinian blood. Utter bastards. Though it does provide a subtitle for the foreign policy section of their next manifesto (with apologies to Norman Cohn) ‘Warrant for Genocide’…..This is genocide, pure and simple.
British policies to "keep Palestinians (and Zionists) in line" clearly failed as the defeat and the subsequent shambolic British withdrawal in 1948 proved. Israel, like Jordan,Syria, Iraq and Egypt was and is brutal post-war state but probably had little to learn from the fading colonial power that it defeated, and which Egypt under Nasser went on to defeat again less than a decade later.Thanks for this. I did wonder but thought it might be conspiracy loon stuff to think that British military and Israeli military work so closely. In a official if secret way.
As this is secret their has been no democratic oversight of it. Which is appalling. Britain hardly can say it has a neutral role in this ongoing conflict.
I think its scandalous, if not surprising , the British military work with Israel army.
Historically the British taught the Zionists some of their well honed techniques for keeping the Palestinians in line. During Arab Revolt in 1930s Orde Wingate feared Night Squads included Zionists. Collective punishment/ detention all learnt from British.
In some ways I'd say that IDF operate like a colonial army. And always have.
I’m more interested in what their involvement in the war might look like. What overt actions they may take.
Though I would personally blame a lot of people for voting Tory but wouldn’t blow their house up for it.
'Hackney Council is facing a backlash from pro-Palestinian campaigners after describing the words ‘Free Palestine’ as “antisemitic”.
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Hackney Council did not respond when asked to explain why it considers the words ‘Free Palestine’ to be antisemitic."
Hackney Council sparks backlash from pro-Palestinian campaigners after removing ‘antisemitic’ graffiti
Palestine Solidarity Campaign condemns Middle East violence as it questions Town Hall’s response to the words ‘Free Palestine’www.hackneycitizen.co.uk
In case you don't trust the source I posted which also says the same thing as quoted below, it links to this site which says:
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UK and Israel sign military agreement - BICOM
What happened: The British Armed forces and the Israel Defense Forces (IDF) have signed a joint agreement to strengthen their relationship. Last Thursday, the UK’s Chief of Defence Staff, Gen. Sir Nicholas Carter and the IDF Chief of Staff, Lt Gen Aviv Kochavi met via video link and signed the...www.bicom.org.uk
The wording suggests that aspects of it certainly are.I'm not sure that means that the nature of the cooperation is particularly secret....
The beeb is going with 1,000 now too. What kind of ordnance could have done this if it was a mistake? Presumably this had to be more than one strike.
They're reporting the first picture they have as of 3 minutes ago. Heaven forbid they leap to conclusions. You'd no doubt be whinging if they made a mistake.Good to see the BBC are still saying 'alleged airstrike' and 'alleged incident' as AJ show pictures of the bombs being dropped and the hospital on fire.
Why not share a link?Looks like a protest is going on in Ramallah atm looking at the pics on BBC news right now
Because just seen live pics on BBC newsWhy not share a link?
So the article says:As far as I can see, no one from Hackney Council is describing the words "Free Palestine" as antisemitic, rather they're saying that the reports of the graffiti from a Hackney resident described them as antisemitic.
Though I would personally blame a lot of people for voting Tory but wouldn’t blow their house up for it.
So they will be removing Vote Labour posters then?As far as I can see from that story, no one from Hackney Council is describing the words "Free Palestine" as antisemitic, rather they're saying that the reports of the graffiti from a Hackney resident described them as antisemitic.
And once any council receives reports of graffiti which the reporter considers racist, their priority is to remove it rather than analyse whether it meets their criteria for racism.
Campaign against the Arms Trade statement.
Agree with this. There are things this country can do. One is stop supplying Israeli State military. Or supporting them in any way. Such as sending navy out there.
CAAT - CAAT Statement: Palestine
CAAT condemns the attacks which have caused the death and injury of thousands of civilians and stands in solidarity and compassion with all those affected by the atrocities, both in Gaza and Israel, and in communities around the world where there has been a drastic escalation in anti-Semitism...caat.org.uk
They're reporting the first picture they have as of 3 minutes ago. Heaven forbid they leap to conclusions. You'd no doubt be whinging if they made a mistake.
Was also showing that on al-Jazeera Youtube channel just now.Looks like a protest is going on in Ramallah atm looking at the pics on BBC news right now
The main British vassal in the region in the postwar era was Jordan, not Israel where the army was under British control until after Suez when The King felt he had both the power to oust them. It was that British led army that annexed the Palestinian West Bank to Jordan in 1948 and it remained under Jordanian occupation until 1968 when the Israeli occupation began.You omit the history or empire. After the collapse of the Ottoman Empire, Britain wanted to ensure it had influence over one constant, and there wasn't an arabic (or Persian) country that hadn't been fucked over by us, so it needed somewhere. And what better place than where there was already a 'mandate'? Being able to use it to split other arabic nations was just a bonus.