Hamas/Israel conflict: news and discussion

[teqniq]

Francesca Albanese does not mince her words and Lammy's not going to like this much but, frankly fuck him:

UN Special Rapporteur Francesca Albanese calls David Lammy a 'genocide denier'

In an interview with MEE, Albanese says Britain has done 'nothing' to prevent genocide in Gaza

www.middleeasteye.net

 

[little_legs]

"Yesterday, I unexpectedly met my friend Khader. I was very surprised to find him in southern Gaza because I knew he was in the north. He told me his story, saying:

“ The siege tightened around us, and the bombing became insanely intense. I was running through the streets, and at one point, I stumbled and fell, only to realize I had hit a decomposing human body. Strangely, l just kept running.

They surrounded us in Jabalia, in one of the schools, and stormed in, humiliating us in front of our mothers and wives, and insulting the women and children as well.

They let the women go and took us young men to prison. Every four hours, they would come in and beat us. If you wanted to drink water, you couldn't simply ask; instead, you had to bark like a dog.
Barking was their signal that you were thirsty. I have never seen a place filthier than that, with the ground and bedding all covered in dirt. It was just slightly worse than hell itself. This went on for 20 days before they took me and threw me into the south! ”

I don't know what kind of army this is or what kind of hearts, skins, or minds they have. I often wonder, are they even human like us?

 

[teqniq]

A very brave young Israeli woman is threatened and harassed by the police for being involved the planned screening of a film 'Gaza Fights For Freedom' in which the journalist Abby Martin is involved. part of a series called The Empire Files:

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[ID47]

A very brave young Israeli woman is threatened and harassed by the police for being involved the planned screening of a film 'Gaza Fights For Freedom' in which the journalist Abby Martin is involved. part of a series called The Empire Files:

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Bravissima, maximum respect.

 

[teqniq]

The Israeli state is of course a Zionist project but although this article is a little old it states that whilst the majority dislike Netanyahu the majority of the Israeli public support what is happening in Gaza including limiting humanitarian aid:

Most Israelis dislike Netanyahu, but support the war in Gaza – an Israeli scholar explains what’s driving public opinion

Israelis’ and Jewish people’s long-held feeling of persecution, dating back to biblical times, contributes to most Israelis’ desire to continue the war in Gaza.

theconversation.com

It would appear that I stand corrected:

Large majority of Israelis want hostage deal, even if it means ending Gaza war – poll

 

[Gramsci]

Francesca Albanese does not mince her words and Lammy's not going to like this much but, frankly fuck him:

UN Special Rapporteur Francesca Albanese calls David Lammy a 'genocide denier'

In an interview with MEE, Albanese says Britain has done 'nothing' to prevent genocide in Gaza

www.middleeasteye.net

Green Party asks UK government ‘what threshold must be met’ to prevent genocide in Gaza

MPs urged the government to clarify whether it has ‘assessed that there is a serious risk of genocide’

www.middleeasteye.net

Noticed link to this in article.

Chowns told MEE: "We know the government has not described the Israeli government’s assault on Palestinians in Gaza as a genocide – the prime minister keeps telling us.

"But has it actually assessed the risk? And what will it take for the government to recognise that obligation and act on it to prevent genocide?"

I think this analyst quoted in the article is correct. The government refusal to say what constitutes genocide or to say need to wait ( years) for courts to decide is evading this countries responsibilities to agreements it's signed up to

So it's not so much that Lammy and co are denying genocide. There one sided support for Israel means they can't in public make any comment which would lead to questions about why they in that case aren't doing more.

Gary Spedding, a cross-party consultant on Israel-Palestine in parliament, told MEE: "The prime minister isn't even bothering to answer what the government's definition of genocide actually is, and continues to refuse to act in alignment with our obligations under international law in terms of our duty to prevent, and act to stop, genocide.

Our government are actively avoiding any acknowledgement that there is a serious risk of genocide so as to not trigger or be seen to be required to trigger our obligation to take action."

 

[Gramsci]

So I was right to vote Green at last election.

I couldn't vote for MP who refused to vote for ceasefire

 

[Gramsci]

Some predictions for where US policy on Israel/Palestine is going.

Trump’s unfinished business for ‘Greater Israel’

From annexation to UNRWA, Trump’s Israel advisors should be taken at their word — and Democrats won’t stand in their way, says Lara Friedman.

www.972mag.com

What comes across is USA establishment politicians has same contempt for UN that Israel has.

I don't get impression Trump is ideological Zionist that Biden was.

But she's saying look at who he is appointing to his administration. Advocates of Greater Israel.

On UNWRA she is correct. Its not about aid its that its seen as perpetuating the refugee problem. As Israel supporters see it. I've posted about this before. There are those in Israel who have been saying this for years.

There are several issues that looks like US could come head to head with UN. This does not bode well. As article implies that Trump government wont have any compunction in attacking UN. UNWRA and recognising Palestinian statehood are two issues.

And that's going to be issue for some European governments like ours. Whilst supporting Israel they aren't into undermining UN.

Politics in US is quite different to here. See the discussion on the debate about IHRA in article.

She also says hard right in US are using opposing anti semitism as part of way to attack what they see as wokeness in US. Its being used as attack on liberal progressive Americans in general. A way to wedge the door open and then clamp down on other progressive views.

She does make point that Democrat leadership treated the section of its base who support Palestinian rights with contempt. Whilst the Trump victory was large this was not an issue that lost the election. It however in her view is a mistake.

She saying in Israel its Labour party tacked to the right. Did not work as why vote for a Likud lite party when you can have the real thing. She says however some US commentators are saying Democrats weren't pro Israel enough

She does not mention UK but I think there are lessons here for Starmer and Lammy.

 

[_Russ_]

Spokespeople for the IDF still claims to be the most Moral Army in the world...always with a straight face
So much evidence to the contrary is avoided by mainstream media, why many actually believe the IDF's behaviour is justified.

Meanwhile people involved....

 

[_Russ_]

It would appear that I stand corrected:

Large majority of Israelis want hostage deal, even if it means ending Gaza war – poll

I don't think it's a matter of correctness, more that the sands might be shifting.
On the face of it in a positive direction, but what has been done cannot be undone and the settlers continue their state backed criminality against Palistinians regardless. Settler violence is baked in and even a so called ceasefire wont ever stop the zealots

 

[teqniq]

If anyone can spare a few bob there is a fundraiser specifically for North Gaza:

North Gaza Relief - NSAAEM

My name is Adham and I work with نـسـائـم - Nsaaem, a charitable association in the beseiged Gaza Strip. My organization is documented as an approved partner by international parties, including the International Agency and UNICEF, which are cooperating with us in charitable work. Our five-person...

chuffed.org

 

[Duncan2]

The acclaimed British surgeon cropping up on this thread seemed sceptical of the idea that what has gone on in Gaza can rightly be described as a war.Unless I misunderstood the thrust of what he was saying that is.Has anyone seen any figures for IDF casualties in Gaza over the course of this last year when so many Palestinians have been killed.I suppose the IDF could have reasons for not commenting on that aspect of things.

 

[Gramsci]

The acclaimed British surgeon cropping up on this thread seemed sceptical of the idea that what has gone on in Gaza can rightly be described as a war.Unless I misunderstood the thrust of what he was saying that is.Has anyone seen any figures for IDF casualties in Gaza over the course of this last year when so many Palestinians have been killed.I suppose the IDF could have reasons for not commenting on that aspect of things.

Official figures

https://www.gov.il/en/pages/swords-of-iron-idf-casualties

I'm not sure what the surgeon you are talking about said.

As far as I can gather Gaza counts as occupied territory similar to West Bank. This is not a war in sense of two countries fighting each other. As in Ukraine and Russia.