The 2024 UK General Election - news, speculation and updates
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PR1Berske
Alligator in chains by the park gates.
“It will be rather like freshers’ week."
www.theguardian.com
Where will they all sit? Commons welcomes 334 rookie MPs in most diverse parliament
The new house has a record number of women and ethnic minority members, but finding seats could be hard during busy debates
Wilf
Slouching towards Billingham
Yeah, waiting for their first payment to come through, keen to add paid 2nd jobs...“It will be rather like freshers’ week."
Where will they all sit? Commons welcomes 334 rookie MPs in most diverse parliament
The new house has a record number of women and ethnic minority members, but finding seats could be hard during busy debates
Cid
Proper break this time
Trying to find a place for less than £25k a year exactly when everyone else is looking...
redsquirrel
This Machine Kills Progressives
They've got nowhere else to go - apart from they have Peter
Of course Macron's rise in France as stopped the RN. The PD's wholehearted enthusiasm for Neo-liberalism has blocked the Lega and FdI. The move right of the Swedish Social Democrats has ensured the Swedish Democrats are left out in the cold.
EDIT: To conclude that in 2024 that 'centrism' is the solution to the rise of the hard right is deluded. Centrism has been the name of the game for past 40 years (with a little fraying around the edges in the last 5 years), and the populist hard right is growing
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The39thStep
Urban critical thinker
Working well in France
Well that’s exactly how Macron got in in the first place to be fair.
littlebabyjesus
one of Maxwell's demons
Not really. He won the runoff vs Le Pen because those on the left put a clothes peg on their noses (literally in many cases) and voted for him, just as, years earlier, people had done for Chirac against her dad.
People offering a genuine alternative to the current failing system surely are the best-placed to counter those offering a fascist alternative. Hence various polling had Sanders doing better in a head-to-head against Trump than H Clinton in 2016.
The39thStep
Urban critical thinker
I'll repost this from the French thread
littlebabyjesus
one of Maxwell's demons
You might be about to see it in the next few hours. Prime Minister Jean-Luc Melenchon is on the cards.
redsquirrel
This Machine Kills Progressives
Right so the people you support have been/are in power (as they have been for years) during which time the hard right has broadened and deepened its support - but somehow the answer to the hard right is doubling down liberalism
zedr
new but not *that* new
from the report on the guardian it sounds like Cooper is trying to act tough on the 'smuggling gangs' and 'small boats'. nothing in her comments talks about the impact on the people being brought over either willingly or not. it does talk a lot about 'the security of our borders'. fucking hell.
The39thStep
Urban critical thinker
Wrong thread
zedr
new but not *that* new
this is interesting. do you know if there is a similar one for vote share too?
strung out
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There's this from the final week's polls. Not perfect as the Labour vote dropped in the final couple of days (tactical voting, last minute switchers to Greens/Independents once it was clear the election was in the bag etc.), but gives you a good flavour of how people ended up switching between 2019 and 2024
Silas Loom
Hated by both sides
Voting Tory in 2019 is as likely to kill you as to convince you to vote Labour.
Kid_Eternity
Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?
Tbf that’s partly Johnsons fault…
Kid_Eternity
Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?
It’s a good way to understand what happened.
PR1Berske
Alligator in chains by the park gates.
Commons website updated. Here are the independents:
moochedit
I'm not feeding seagulls
Humberto
dreamin man
Would the new Home Office ministers be directing operations at that level after one or two days in the post? Wouldn't surprise me either way.
They want to 'tackle' the 'people smuggling gangs' apparently though i.e in relation to 'small boats' and those crossing on them. Treating the whole thing as a matter of criminality and security. You'd think a few months of press statements and actions would give you a fuller idea on where they are with regards to their position on asylum and a hostile environment.
Home Secretary Yvette Cooper sets out plan to tackle small boat crossings
The new home secretary says she will start work to recruit a border security commander on Monday.
www.bbc.co.uk
elbows
Well-Known Member
Includes a reference to Blair still going on about ID cards all these years later. Only these days they are 'digital ID cards' and Blairs shit gets rejected more swiftly.Home Secretary Yvette Cooper sets out plan to tackle small boat crossings
The new home secretary says she will start work to recruit a border security commander on Monday.www.bbc.co.uk
Cid
Proper break this time
Yeah that's from a Times piece he wrote, which also goes heavy on promoting AI for growth. Oh and law and order. Such a piece of shit.
danny la rouge
More like *fanny* la rouge!
Yup. Jack Straw was the origin of the hostile environment.
danny la rouge
More like *fanny* la rouge!
Out of interest, when will the new emails be up and running? There’s a number of matters on which I’d like to educate my new MP.
ska invita
back on the other side
Some NoID stats
www.theguardian.com
More than 400,000 people may have been prevented from voting in the general election because they lacked the necessary ID, with those from minority ethnic communities more than twice as likely to have experienced this, polling has suggested.
Of those surveyed by More In Common, 3.2% said they were turned away at least once last Thursday, which if reflected across the UK would equate to more than 850,000 people. Of these, more than half said they either did not return or came back and were still unable to vote.
Among people turned away at least once, about a third had ID that was not on the relatively narrow list of permitted documents; about a quarter said the name on their ID was different to that on the electoral register; and 12% said they were told the picture on the ID did not match their appearance.
Voter ID rule may have stopped 400,000 taking part in UK election, poll suggests
Exclusive: 3.2% of those surveyed say they were turned away at least once, with minority ethnic people worse affected
More than 400,000 people may have been prevented from voting in the general election because they lacked the necessary ID, with those from minority ethnic communities more than twice as likely to have experienced this, polling has suggested.
Of those surveyed by More In Common, 3.2% said they were turned away at least once last Thursday, which if reflected across the UK would equate to more than 850,000 people. Of these, more than half said they either did not return or came back and were still unable to vote.
Among people turned away at least once, about a third had ID that was not on the relatively narrow list of permitted documents; about a quarter said the name on their ID was different to that on the electoral register; and 12% said they were told the picture on the ID did not match their appearance.
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