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The number of seats doesn’t relate to anything apart from the actual result and winning elections… is that you Jezza?!
They've got nowhere else to go - apart from they have Peter
But is a hard right more likely to be defeated by people being offered an alternative hard left gov or a centrist gov? I’d wager a centrist party will more easily get a majority to turn away from extreme right.
Of course Macron's rise in France as stopped the RN. The PD's wholehearted enthusiasm for Neo-liberalism has blocked the Lega and FdI. The move right of the Swedish Social Democrats has ensured the Swedish Democrats are left out in the cold.

EDIT: To conclude that in 2024 that 'centrism' is the solution to the rise of the hard right is deluded. Centrism has been the name of the game for past 40 years (with a little fraying around the edges in the last 5 years), and the populist hard right is growing
 
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Well that’s exactly how Macron got in in the first place to be fair.
Not really. He won the runoff vs Le Pen because those on the left put a clothes peg on their noses (literally in many cases) and voted for him, just as, years earlier, people had done for Chirac against her dad.

People offering a genuine alternative to the current failing system surely are the best-placed to counter those offering a fascist alternative. Hence various polling had Sanders doing better in a head-to-head against Trump than H Clinton in 2016.
 
yeah was gonna post this. this govt is still going to continue the hostile environment. they came to remove some asylum seekers from one of the hotels in east london and take them to napier barracks yesterday.

I remember hearing about Yvette cooper visiting the refugee camps in calais in about 2015 and talking about how important safe routes for asylum seekers were. doubt she's in favour of anything of the sort these days.
from the report on the guardian it sounds like Cooper is trying to act tough on the 'smuggling gangs' and 'small boats'. nothing in her comments talks about the impact on the people being brought over either willingly or not. it does talk a lot about 'the security of our borders'. fucking hell.
 
this is interesting. do you know if there is a similar one for vote share too?
There's this from the final week's polls. Not perfect as the Labour vote dropped in the final couple of days (tactical voting, last minute switchers to Greens/Independents once it was clear the election was in the bag etc.), but gives you a good flavour of how people ended up switching between 2019 and 2024


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yeah was gonna post this. this govt is still going to continue the hostile environment. they came to remove some asylum seekers from one of the hotels in east london and take them to napier barracks yesterday.

I remember hearing about Yvette cooper visiting the refugee camps in calais in about 2015 and talking about how important safe routes for asylum seekers were. doubt she's in favour of anything of the sort these days.
Would the new Home Office ministers be directing operations at that level after one or two days in the post? Wouldn't surprise me either way.

They want to 'tackle' the 'people smuggling gangs' apparently though i.e in relation to 'small boats' and those crossing on them. Treating the whole thing as a matter of criminality and security. You'd think a few months of press statements and actions would give you a fuller idea on where they are with regards to their position on asylum and a hostile environment.

 
Includes a reference to Blair still going on about ID cards all these years later. Only these days they are 'digital ID cards' and Blairs shit gets rejected more swiftly.

Yeah that's from a Times piece he wrote, which also goes heavy on promoting AI for growth. Oh and law and order. Such a piece of shit.
 
Some NoID stats


More than 400,000 people may have been prevented from voting in the general election because they lacked the necessary ID, with those from minority ethnic communities more than twice as likely to have experienced this, polling has suggested.

Of those surveyed by More In Common, 3.2% said they were turned away at least once last Thursday, which if reflected across the UK would equate to more than 850,000 people. Of these, more than half said they either did not return or came back and were still unable to vote.

Among people turned away at least once, about a third had ID that was not on the relatively narrow list of permitted documents; about a quarter said the name on their ID was different to that on the electoral register; and 12% said they were told the picture on the ID did not match their appearance.
 
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