UK general election - the U75 poll

[NoXion]

So far there are three confirmed choices for my constituency: Labour, Lib Dems, and Workers' Party of Britain. That third one sounded interesting, so I did my due diligence and had a look at their website. When I clicked the link to their manifesto page, I was confronted with a picture of George fucking Galloway, and any desire I had to vote for them instantly evaporated. I ain't voting for any chumps who simp for Assad and Putin, they can all get fucked.

Looking at the current Labour incumbent Tan Dhesi's voting record, it seems OK-ish, but it's not definitely pushing me to vote for Starmer's party, especially since this is a Labour safe seat.

So I will probably not bother this time, not unless a decent socialist candidate decides to stand.

 

[JimW]

Sounds from littlebabyjesus' post on the other thread that I could arrange a vote under new rules, but doesn't look that straightforward and a bit crap having lived abroad most of the last thirty years.

 

[chilango]

Other. Probably Green unless something interesting happens over the next 6 weeks.

 

[Johnny Vodka]

Either Green or SNP here.

 

[kabbes]

As can't vote anywhere these days, put "other". Meaning if was in the UK, would find it remarkably difficult to vote for starmerism...

Christ, your affectation of not using pronouns doesn’t half mangle sentences sometimes!

 

[belboid]

Christ, your affectation of not using pronouns doesn’t half mangle sentences sometimes!

he's not christ, he's just a very silly boy.

 

[Jeremiah18.17]

Since 2010 I've abandoned by anarcho-principles and voted Labour, given the alternative was a hideous tory gang. Unless there's a radical and/or Gaza candidate standing I'll probably go back to 'fuck 'em all'. My seat's red wall - Bishop Auckland - but the vermin have a 1% chance of keeping it according to some analysis linked on here. So, there's no chance my lack of a vote will help ratboy et al.

Looks like you will have one of the small number of Transform Party candidates - Rachel Maughan (Transform also standing in Newton Aycliffe & Spennymoor)

 

[Guineveretoo]

I think they are supposed to mark down who forgets id and how many return later for the stats. But whether they care is another matter.

they don't mark names - just numbers

 

[DaveCinzano]

I only just realised that with all the boundary changes, my MP has switched from Thangam Debbonaire to Kerry McCarthy .

That's handy - she normally tweets out the result before the count is confirmed so you don't have to hang about all night

 

[moochedit]

they don't mark names - just numbers

How do they know who returns then if they don't mark the names down?

 

[cupid_stunt]

How do they know who returns then if they don't mark the names down?

We all have a polling number, that's what is noted, rather than actual names.

I am not a number, I am a free man...

 

[andysays]

We all have a polling number, that's what is noted, rather than actual names.

I am not a number, I am a free man...

But if you don't have ID to show, then logically they can only note down the number of the person you claim to be.

 

[Wilf]

Looks like you will have one of the small number of Transform Party candidates - Rachel Maughan (Transform also standing in Newton Aycliffe & Spennymoor)

Ta, might end up voting for them, if I do vote. I suspect there's space for a left of Labour party to get a few thousand, but they aren't it (in the sense that they don't have much of a presence).

 

[Guineveretoo]

How do they know who returns then if they don't mark the names down?

We can usually recognise people who come back. It is a long day and anything that breaks the monotony is welcome

 

[Guineveretoo]

But if you don't have ID to show, then logically they can only note down the number of the person you claim to be.

we don't do that. I don't think anyone is interested in the names of people who come without ID....

 

[brogdale]

we don't do that. I don't think anyone is interested in the names of people who come without ID....

How are the stats for this collated, then?

 

[Guineveretoo]

How are the stats for this collated, then?

the poll clerk just makes a note of people who come to the polling station without ID, and also makes a note of those who come back with that ID. A note as in a line on piece of paper which becomes a 5 bar gate when it reaches 5.

At the polling station where I was working this month, everyone came back

At the end of the day, we all have to fill in lots of forms, one of which had a box asking how many people came to the polling station without ID and how many didn't come back.

It is not scientific, but that is how it is done.

It is only to give an idea of how well the messaging has got through.

At the polling station I was at, everyone knew they were supposed to have brought ID.

 

[belboid]

the poll clerk just makes a note of people who come to the polling station without ID, and also makes a note of those who come back with that ID. A note as in a line on piece of paper which becomes a 5 bar gate when it reaches 5.

How do they know if it’s someone returning with ID if they haven’t noted who they were when they turned up without it?

 

[brogdale]

It is only to give an idea of how well the messaging has got through.

I suspect there's a great deal of truth in what you say there. The Electoral Commission (now under the leadership of a tory place-man) really only wants to say that nationally only 14 people were turned away without photo ID to gaslight us about the real impact of voter suppression.

As said before, the numbers of folk who are put off even thinking of turning up at the polling station can never, of course, be accurately known.

 

[Looby]

Probably Labour but it’s mostly pointless here as my awful Tory MP has such a safe seat.

I would consider LD if they could boot him out but that’s gone wrong before. Labour would never win here.

The latest projections put the Tories only 3 points above Labour in my constituency which feels mad but ok.

I actually vaguely know our candidate. He’s a local TU official, been very active for years in the area and I think well liked. It seems like a very lefty option for a wealthy Tory area but we’ll see what happens. His wife is also fairly senior in healthcare locally so I feel like that might be helpful.

 

[Voley]

How do they know if it’s someone returning with ID if they haven’t noted who they were when they turned up without it?

At the one we just did, we recognised them. One very persevering chap came back three times in the end. We got him to vote.

We did have a couple of people who'd forgotten their ID who didn't return.

 

[Guineveretoo]

How do they know if it’s someone returning with ID if they haven’t noted who they were when they turned up without it?

we usually recognise them. Obviously, we don't recognise them if someone comes in, realises they haven't got their ID and leaves without saying anything, but we have a little chat with voters, remind them that they need ID, and tell them that we are open to 10, so we hope they can come back.

And people like to chat, so the poll clerk will say something like - "glad to see you back" or "you found it - well done" or something similar.

We like to chat.

 

[Guineveretoo]

I suspect there's a great deal of truth in what you say there. The Electoral Commission (now under the leadership of a tory place-man) really only wants to say that nationally only 14 people were turned away without photo ID to gaslight us about the real impact of voter suppression.

As said before, the numbers of folk who are put off even thinking of turning up at the polling station can never, of course, be accurately known.

And the number who have moved to postal voting which, of course, does not require ID.

Turn out has been pretty much as previously, though, so there is not much evidence of people being turned off from voting because of the requirement.

 

[brogdale]

And the number who have moved to postal voting which, of course, does not require ID.

Turn out has been pretty much as previously, though, so there is not much evidence of people being turned off from voting because of the requirement.

That's interesting local anecdotal information, albeit that there are, of course, many other variables that can determine turn-outs. Simply looking roughly like a previous turn-out is not necessarily an indicator that all is well with the voter ID suppression. The broader picture does indicate plenty of evidence; the electoral commission's report from the 2023 locals reckoned that about 14k people were recorded as being turned away and not turning up again. The comparable figures this year won't be released for a while yet.

Are they collecting figures for those turned away, or is it just for those turned away that don't subsequently return?

 

[Sasaferrato]

Any word yet on Diane Abbott?

 

[Sue]

Any word yet on Diane Abbott?

No.

Labour Black Socialists condemn Keir Starmer’s treatment of Diane Abbott – with date set for decision on MP’s future

Campaigner Lucie Scott accuses Labour leader of ‘deliberately keeping Abbott in suspense’

www.hackneycitizen.co.uk

 

[pseudonarcissus]

I'm not bothering. I'm not sure how the overseas expat postal vote things works. Presumably I could vote in my old constituency, but Poplar is usually solidly labour.
I just did my tax return which was 0 all the way through, except for 8 UK days...if I don't do taxation, I am not sure I should get the representation.

 

[planetgeli]

Any word yet on Diane Abbott?

The day for the result of her 'inquiry' is the same date for the last day of choosing Labour candidates.

Draw your own conclusions.

 

[QueenOfGoths]

I shall probably tactically vote LibDem as there is a pretty fair chance that they could defeat the Tories this time.

The Tories will be fielding a new candidate and it seems likely they will be parachuted in whereas the LibDem candidate is from the local area

Labour also have a local candidate and I would vote for them if I thought there was a chance they could win but I don't think Maidenhead is quite ready for such a change yet.

 

[wemakeyousoundb]

I'm a johnny foreigner with indefinite leave to remain and none of these apply