UK general election - the U75 poll

[kabbes]

Seriously? Don’t you want there to be more houses?

No, I’m being facetious. But I certainly don’t want there to be new houses in an Area of Outstanding Natural Beauty. (And I also don’t want there to be just enclaves of new houses with zero infrastructure to support them, shoddily built and with little allowance for hydrology. But this is a whole different political debate)

 

[AnnaKarpik]

I don't know anything about our candidate - Jayne Kirkham - but I suspect a Starmerbot, the Tory is a wet-wipe, LibDems is another unknown and there no declared runners outside of those. I'll wait and see if any decent offerings in the Other category appear and then vote for one of them or stay home.

As an aside, Urban, when I answered the how will you vote question on FB several people claimed that magnificent spunking cock was not a traditional way to cast a vote. I feel I might have been led astray by a bunch of weird degenerates

 

[FabricLiveBaby!]

Not a go at you obvs, but I think the rules on this are lop-sided. Once you've been out of the country more than five years, you should lose the vote imo. And any non-citizen who's lived here five years should get the vote in all elections.

Not at all. Different countries, different rules. I can't vote here either and I would be losing my right to vote completely but for the fact I applied for my Hungarian citizenship, and they actively want their diaspora to vote, as overwhelmingly they vote for Orbán and Fidesz- the idiots currently in charge.

Which is why it is always my pleasure to vote against them despite not living there.

Edit to add:

A bit part of the reason why I left was that Cameron got in, and a lot of people, when I voiced my displeasure was "uh well if you don't like it why don't you fuck off?" And then when I fucked off they were all like "uhh, well you fucked off so you don't get an opinion, and shouldn't have a right to vote". Weirdly I reckon British people abroad would broadly vote against the government, which is probably why it's not allowed after X time. Diaspora from Britain are basically citizens that chose to leave, whereas in other parts of Europe the ones with second citizenships are people who were forcibly removed/or borders moved.

 

[beesonthewhatnow]

3 vermin voters

The hunt begins at dawn…

 

[littlebabyjesus]

Not at all. Different countries, different rules. I can't vote here either and I would be losing my right to vote completely but for the fact I applied for my Hungarian citizenship, and they actively want their diaspora to vote, as overwhelmingly they vote for Orbán and Fidesz- the idiots currently in charge.

Which is why it is always my pleasure to vote against them despite not living there.

Edit to add:

A bit part of the reason why I left was that Cameron got in, and a lot of people, when I voiced my displeasure was "uh well if you don't like it why don't you fuck off?" And then when I fucked off they were all like "uhh, well you fucked off so you don't get an opinion, and shouldn't have a right to vote". Weirdly I reckon British people abroad would broadly vote against the government, which is probably why it's not allowed after X time. Diaspora from Britain are basically citizens that chose to leave, whereas in other parts of Europe the ones with second citizenships are people who were forcibly removed/or borders moved.

Rule's changed now btw. You can vote here for the rest of your life if you so choose.

Brits living abroad for more than 15 years get general election vote

I generally don't agree with you. I think the place you have made your home in (everyone, not just you) and where you work and pay taxes, use services, are subject to laws, etc, should be the place you vote in. Wouldn't be beyond the wit of humankind for countries to harmonise this among themselves so that everyone had a vote somewhere.

Bloke in that article who's lived in Italy for 40 years should be voting in Italy, not here.

ETA: The perfect example of the idiocy of this was the Brexit referendum. People who hadn't lived here for years could vote, while people who had lived here for decades, who were going to be directly affected by the outcome, could not.

 

[Mr.Bishie]

3 vermin voters

The hunt begins at dawn…

More concerning, are probably the 13 genuine Lib Dem voters

 

[beesonthewhatnow]

More concerning, are probably the 13 genuine Lib Dem voters

Tactical voters get a pass

 

[cupid_stunt]

3 vermin voters

The hunt begins at dawn…

TBF they may have good reasons.

Although, be buggered if I can think of any, after the shit-show we've had over the last few years.

 

[Wilf]

I voted Won't Bother, but now I'm worried I should have voted tactically.
For Spunking Cock.

 

[FabricLiveBaby!]

I generally don't agree with you. I think the place you have made your home in (everyone, not just you) and where you work and pay taxes, use services, are subject to laws, etc, should be the place you vote in.

I totally agree with you, actually.

I would love to actually vote in the country that I live in and pay taxes in. But I can't. And I'm not just going to not vote ever again in my life.

So I'll just put the boot in to Orbán instead because I hate what he's doing to a country I love. Maybe that's a-moral of me or hypocritical, but I am at peace with that.

 

[littlebabyjesus]

I totally agree with you, actually.

I would love to actually vote in the country that I live in and pay taxes in. But I can't. And I'm not just going to not vote ever again in my life.

So I'll just put the boot in to Orbán instead because I hate what he's doing to a country I love. Maybe that's a-moral of me or hypocritical, but I am at peace with that.

Nah, you crack on!

Two very separate considerations. Is the system I'm stuck in right or wrong? Vs How should I act now that I find myself in this wrong system?

 

[FabricLiveBaby!]

ETA: The perfect example of the idiocy of this was the Brexit referendum. People who hadn't lived here for years could vote, while people who had lived here for decades, who were going to be directly affected by the outcome, could not.

Not sure about this bit. There are plenty of Brits living abroad who were going affected by Brexit and voted against it. I know loads of them. Some of them even had to move back to the UK against their will.

 

[littlebabyjesus]

Not sure about this bit. There are plenty of Brits living abroad who were going affected by Brexit and voted against it. I know loads of them. Some of them even had to move back to the UK against their will.

Absurdly, there were loads of Brits abroad, notably in Spain, who voted for Brexit.

But I take your point. You're right that it affected anyone connected with the UK living anywhere in the EU at the time.

 

[FabricLiveBaby!]

Absurdly, there were loads of Brits abroad, notably in Spain, who voted for Brexit.

Oh yeah. I know one guy here who had a Polish wife, and kids and then voted Brexit willingly.

And we were all like "WTF dude - your wife and kids are Polish"?!

And he was like "I know! I makes no sense." And he left it at that.

In the end he went back willingly (because he missed the UK), and a number of British expats were cursing him because essentially he made their lives needlessly much harder for a decision that made no sense. Including me, because I had to apply for Hungarian citizenship in preparation and then change all my documents over. Which was easier than applying for permanent residency agai .

No idea what happened to that bloke after that. The twat.

 

[Puddy_Tat]

Absurdly, there were loads of Brits abroad, notably in Spain, who voted for Brexit.

any crossover with the ones who moved there because there are 'too many foreigners in england now'?

 

[stavros]

Not entirely sure yet. I think the Tories will hold the seat, but if they do look like being challenged it'll probably be by the Lib Dems, and hence they would get my vote.

I was wondering the other under what possible circumstances I could imagine voting Tory. I know there are some who aren't fully inculcated into the noisy nutters in the party, so maybe if one of them was in a two-horse race with Reform they might get my vote. Lee Anderson losing his seat to the party he left would be reasonably satisfying.

 

[Silas Loom]

Not entirely sure yet. I think the Tories will hold the seat, but if they do look like being challenged it'll probably be by the Lib Dems, and hence they would get my vote.

I was wondering the other under what possible circumstances I could imagine voting Tory. I know there are some who aren't fully inculcated into the noisy nutters in the party, so maybe if one of them was in a two-horse race with Reform they might get my vote. Lee Anderson losing his seat to the party he left would be reasonably satisfying.

Maybe there are some SNP-Con marginals? I can imagine tactical voting under those circumstances if I was a Scot.

 

[Sue]

Maybe there are some SNP-Con marginals? I can imagine tactical voting under those circumstances if I was a Scot.

There are and some Labour voters will vote Tory. And some Tory voters will vote Labour in SNP-Labour marginals. Because the Union is the most important thing.

 

[Zapp Brannigan]

Lee Anderson losing his seat to the party he left would be reasonably satisfying.

Which party? He's been in most of them.

 

[Cloo]

Labour - I'm in Finchley/Golders Green which has changed hands a bit, but Mike Freer has held on the last few rounds for the Tories due to Corbyn splitting the Jewish vote and generally being liked as a constituency MP. But he's standing down and Labour have a very strong candidate, so the Tories have no hope of holding it without him, but I will vote Labour to be sure.

 

[agricola]

Labour, but it is a personal vote for my MP

 

[Louis MacNeice]

Probably Green, as the country needs at least one Green MP. Not sure how the fact that Caroline Lucas is not standing may affect the vote though.

I will be doing the same, in the same constituency and for the same reason; my days of angrily writing communist across the ballot paper are behind me.

Cheers (parliamentary and reformist ones) - Louis MacNeice

 

[brogdale]

My local CLP (Carshalton & Wallington) has had a PPC imposed on them by London Regional office with no local input whatsoever. As if to signal clearly to their supporters that a tactical LD vote is required, the unheard of, imposed candidate comes from Uxbridge and the CLP told Inside Croydon that "they look forward to welcoming him” to Carshalton.

 

[cupid_stunt]

Corbyn has confirmed he'll stand as an independent.

 

[Silas Loom]

I hope Labour has the sense to delay the purge of party members who tweet in support of Corbyn until 5 July.

 

[spitfire]

Labour, with no great pleasure. But need to keep out the independent as he is a mate of Lutfur Rahman.

 

[brogdale]

I hope Labour has the sense to delay the purge of party members who tweet in support of Corbyn until 5 July.

The only hope for the LP as a soi-disant democratic socialist entity is that they keep chucking out socialist members; they'll be left with a totally useless vermin-lite rump

 

[kalmatthew]

I'm one of the Lib dem voters, partly because Labour have no chance here (Godalming and Ash) and partly becuase I know personally my LD candidate and I belive he'll be a good MP who will try his best for the area.

 

[scalyboy]

If i was him i'd go for rees-mogg

It would truly be a wondrous sight to behold if that top-hatted cnut lost his seat and Binface leapt around in his face taunting the toff like Keown did to van Nistelrooy.

But Binface has too much dignity to do that

[edit: van Nistelrooy not Cristiano. Christ my memory is like a shrimp on a stick being chewed by a bear]

 

[krtek a houby]

As can't vote anywhere these days, put "other". Meaning if was in the UK, would find it remarkably difficult to vote for starmerism...