of course that's the done thing now but still
for having to read that sentence
UK election poll: Islington North
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for having to read that sentence
Kid_Eternity
Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?
Yep this doesn’t surprise me at all, tracks with what I’ve heard about internal polling. With just over a week to go I wonder what the Corbyn campaign can do to close this gap?
www.jewishnews.co.uk
Jeremy Corbyn heading for election defeat in Islington North, poll shows - Jewish News
Survation poll, commissioned by Corbyn supporters, shows Labour candidate Praful Nargund on 43% and the former leader, standing as an independent on 29%
www.jewishnews.co.uk
Silas Loom
Hated by both sides
The follow-up questions on candidate favourability point the other way, though.
belboid
Exasperated, not angry.
It is surprising that the combined JC/Labour vote is only 5% up on 2019, I’d expected a bigger ‘other’ vote collapse
Kid_Eternity
Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
You're not reading the thread, are you
Silas Loom
Hated by both sides
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Kid_Eternity
Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?
Yep, that’s a general rule in situations like this, think it also reflects the disparity in resources too. Labour are able to poll more regularly, knock on thousands of doors each day plus have more money to play with…
Labour member involved in election campaign arrested over alleged honeytrap plot
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brogdale
Coming to terms with late onset Anarchism
Can rule out Corbz, then?Labour member involved in election campaign arrested over alleged honeytrap plot
Met detain man in Islington as part of political sexting scandal inquiry as Labour say he has been administratively suspendedwww.theguardian.com
belboid
Exasperated, not angry.
but what a valedictory speech he'll give! Even better than Benn's in '83
ska invita
back on the other side
I thought greens withdrew?
belboid
Exasperated, not angry.
they may have withdrawn support for the candidate, or said they won't campaign, but their candidate is still on the ballot paper.
Kid_Eternity
Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?
Finally.
brogdale
Coming to terms with late onset Anarchism
Kid_Eternity
Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?
This is such bullshit, they’ve known for bloody ages he’s not in the party. Just as I’ve said; without the organisation and resources of a party he’ll struggle to win. And with denial of reality like this you can see they don’t have the talent either…
“Corbyn’s team accept that the snap election has left his campaign particularly exposed in lacking the data and infrastructure that comes with being a party candidate, given the lack of time to build up a parallel system.”
Jeremy Corbyn in final push to keep seat amid voter confusion in Islington North
Hundreds are knocking on doors for longtime MP, often having to remind voters that he is no longer Labour
Calamity1971
If Mr Peanut says It's okay, then it is.
We can all cherry pick. From the same article.
This week the first constituency-specific poll of the campaign put Labour’s support at 43% and Corbyn’s at 29%. But when people were asked to pick directly between Corbyn and Labour, he was ahead, by 48% to 40%.
Jeremy Corbyn in final push to keep seat amid voter confusion in Islington North
Hundreds are knocking on doors for longtime MP, often having to remind voters that he is no longer Labour
an amusing reminder that the majority of the populace are not as switched on to politics as us nerds posting on a niche web forum.
confusion reigns.
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
To paraphrase my auld chemistry teacher, it helps to read the ballot paper
Dom Traynor
Tino Pai
Like Pixies?
The39thStep
Urban critical thinker
Silas Loom
Hated by both sides
To lay is not to back. It’s the opposite. At least if KE was using Betfair or somesuch, when he posted that eight years ago.
brogdale
Coming to terms with late onset Anarchism
The context suggests that the poster concerned was using the term loosely/erroneously, meaning they were placing such a bet.
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
yes
let your pedantry shine
Silas Loom
Hated by both sides
That’s the thing about gotcha screenshotted posts from eight years ago, they do tend to lack context.
kebabking
Not a Girly Swot, but I like them....
This may surprise some, but do you know, I'd find it sad for Corbyn if he loses his seat because people who wanted to vote for him just ticked the labour box because they hadn't realised he wasn't the Lab candidate.
Sort of 'Corbyn is Labour, so I just looked for the Labour box, ticked and went on my way...' type thing.
There's other stuff, like the point about how utterly divorced for politics such a huge number of people are, or how Corbyn and his people (family?) just couldn't believe that in the end he wasn't going to be the labour candidate so they couldn't bring themselves to really start organising for Corbyn the independent candidate - but in the end, to lose a seat/identity because of folk not reading the ballot paper, that would be sad.
If he was explicitly rejected, or the electorate explicity embraced the Labour candidate, that would be fine, but if it went like that...
(Still thinks he'll win though - I even put a fiver on it....)
Sort of 'Corbyn is Labour, so I just looked for the Labour box, ticked and went on my way...' type thing.
There's other stuff, like the point about how utterly divorced for politics such a huge number of people are, or how Corbyn and his people (family?) just couldn't believe that in the end he wasn't going to be the labour candidate so they couldn't bring themselves to really start organising for Corbyn the independent candidate - but in the end, to lose a seat/identity because of folk not reading the ballot paper, that would be sad.
If he was explicitly rejected, or the electorate explicity embraced the Labour candidate, that would be fine, but if it went like that...
(Still thinks he'll win though - I even put a fiver on it....)
Silas Loom
Hated by both sides
Well, you’ll never know the exact reasons why people voted, whatever the result. Personally, I’ll laugh like a drain and punch the air if Labour wins. Not that I expect them to.
