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*IRAQ: latest news and developments

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1610: French President Jacques Chirac says France would not accept a US-British post-war administration of Iraq.

1530: President George W Bush says the war on Iraq is "making progress".

1530: US defence officials say they have seized two strategically important airfields in western Iraq.

1500: US forces reach key town of Nasariya on Euphrates river, where they encounter Iraqi resistance.

1455: US-led forces intercept two Iraqi barges packed with anti-ship mines as they attempted to leave port in Iraq.

bbc
 
BBC says that the US believes Saddam is either dead or seriously wounded.

They're talking about it right now.


"very serious possibility that Saddam was killed instantly in the initial strikes"

Might be propoganda, but rumors being taken very seriously.
 
Originally posted by zenskar
All foreign correspondents ordered out of Baghdad. (CNN)


:eek:

If true, that is very interesting.

They have a very big interest in keeping journalists in Baghdad, unless...
 
Interesting Theory

by La Republica (Italy) saying the story about Tariq Aziz (sp?) defecting was part of a CIA plot to get him to come and appear in public and then monitor his movements and have him killed. Could tie in with Saddam's death also.

Of course this IS just heresay and shouldnt be taken as gospel.
 
I thought the CIA had already admitted that the Aziz story was indeed a psyops operation, and pretty damned pleased with it they were too. Y'all.

Latest reports (unconfirmed) on Sky, ITV and BBC are all saying that Allied troops have taken Basra city centre.
 
Originally posted by Wookey
If that is true, then I believe something BIG is about to happen.
Oh dear Lord.
I hope they don't do anything major, like one of them MOAB bombs. :( :(
 
N Korea makes noises

North Korea has accused the US of preparing a pre-emptive strike on its nuclear facilities, as US-led forces continued to attack Iraq.

This worrying first hint of Koreas feelings is worrying, and there could well be no troop leave from now on in. USA has already passed a senate motion pointing at Iran, so i think were going to see this War being widened as the weeks go on.

link here for korea story (bbc)
 
Originally posted by Jock_MacGrim


Latest reports (unconfirmed) on Sky, ITV and BBC are all saying that Allied troops have taken Basra city centre.

Latest Irish Times report is that the Troops are holed up just in the outskirts of Basra. Given that Sky et al last night said that the us had captured that uum Qasa city and Hoon daid they facing stiff resistance i'll take the Basra occupation as propaganda.
 
Front page of drudge

Looks like good news.

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Eyewitnesses Report Seeing Wounded Saddam Being Carried From Compound
Fri Mar 21 2003 10:32:01 ET

Intelligence sources now say there were eyewitnesses at the scene where Saddam Hussein's complex was bombed on the first night, ABC reported Friday morning.

John McWethy, ABC's national security correspondent, said on air: "Those eyewitnesses say that they saw Saddam Hussein being taken from the wreckage on a hospital gurney, that he had an oxygen mask over his face. In addition, intelligence sources say that there is a lack of communication between Saddam Hussein's office and his main commands and the rest of his government.

"They are interpreting that as meaning that there is some problem with his health. So they are optimistic that something has happened to the leader of Iraq, but they are still extremely cautious about what his condition is."

Developing...


http://drudgereport.com/
 
Rumsfeld on the radio saying Shock & Awe is beginning and will be unparralled.

Jeez, just read scousers's post, and it just goes from fucking bad to worse.

Where did all this madness come from?
 
BBC News 24 is reporting that an air raid has started on Bagdhad. CNN has been told (by the americans) to leave the city.

Reporters are suggesting that this is the start of the long threatened 'shock and awe' (i.e terror bombing).

Speculation that the war was planned to start today - but the attempted assinaiton on Saddam meant things started early.

Any upto date news sources on the net other than BBC?
Is canadian media less 'patriotic'?
 
the cbc isn't bad. most other networks here in canada have as big an erection over the war and the weapons as the US. the french canadian stations are almost palpably anti-war.

the make alot of statements questioning the truth of what comes from 'official news sources'. so does the cbc - to a lesser extent.
 
truly massive explosions on the ground in baghdad

large scale bombardment - lots of fires and a few secondary explosions - sporadic anti aircraft fire - looks like someone blind fired a SAM
 
Originally posted by Kaka Tim
BBC News 24 is reporting that an air raid has started on Bagdhad. CNN has been told (by the americans) to leave the city.

Reporters are suggesting that this is the start of the long threatened 'shock and awe' (i.e terror bombing).

Speculation that the war was planned to start today - but the attempted assinaiton on Saddam meant things started early.

Any upto date news sources on the net other than BBC?
Is canadian media less 'patriotic'?

Define patriotic!?!

Our media are trying to cover the war as best as they can.

Last night, one of the "guests" blasted the media for giving false information.

The commentator replied that they are doing the best they can, check their sources and if the news item seems credible, they report it. It is up to the individual as to whether they want to believe it.

They also interview people on the street. There always seems to be a balance of opinions...both for and against.

Since we are not involved with in the actual conflict per say, the concept of patriotic bias really doesn't enter into it.

We still support the war on terrorism and are already involved in helping Iraq when it's over.

<edited because I can spell :( >
 
The Blitz on Baghdad is now on live TV - shocking stuff. The whole skyline is ablaze.

Disgustingly the BBC has former US secreatary of state James Rubin giving a voice over for the devastation - telling us all how this was unavoidable, neccessary etc etc.

Blatant propogander telling us how to feel. Sut the fuck up and tell us whats happening.
 
massive explosion and mushroom cloud over baghdad - cbc commentator speculating that it may have been a MOAB.

very large mushroom shaped cloud. but not nuclear.

i don't know what you can see on the bbc - but maybe you should be glad you are not watching cbc - my wife, who had not really experienced this kind of TV war is in shock.


sounds of aircraft and bombs exploding seconds later.
 
There is obviously a very large area hit by those bombs. You have to wonder what they are targeting over such a scope.

I cant even begin to comprehend what it miust be like to be anywhere near that.
 
N Korea makes noises

Originally posted by the scouser
North Korea has accused the US of preparing a pre-emptive strike on its nuclear facilities, as US-led forces continued to attack Iraq.

This worrying first hint of Koreas feelings is worrying, and there could well be no troop leave from now on in. USA has already passed a senate motion pointing at Iran, so i think were going to see this War being widened as the weeks go on.

link here for korea story (bbc)

scouse,

The DPRK is a distraction, forget it! Do a search for my opinion if you are at all interested ;) ).

Focus on the main event. The DPRK will come to nothing.


ON TOPIC.


Bombardment intensifies - Senior US official says it may continue for two days.

Source: TVB News HK.

:(

Woof
 
Tommy Franks seems to be hinting at surrender talks being undertaken right now and suggesting that the intensification will continue until capitulation.

Source: BBC World live.

Propaganda?

Woof
 
the cbc seems to feel that they are targeting an official residence, baath party headquarters and an iraqi intelligence bureau.

unfortunately this is also close to a residential area.
 
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