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[frogwoman]

If the Republicans are as riven with infighting as the Tories surely there's at least one who won't do Trump's bidding?

 

[NoXion]

I'm struggling to get my head round the RFK appointment. Wtf is Trump thinking?

Assuming that he (or more likely whoever passes for his strategists) is even thinking about it in the first instance, I'd say that he wants the crunchy organic alt-med pseudoscience types on-side, and sees appointing RFK as a means of doing that.

 

[Humberto]

If the Republicans are as riven with infighting as the Tories surely there's at least one who won't do Trump's bidding?

Loyalty vs opportunism too. 'A week is a long time in politics' and that. There's usually only a few die-hards (Dorries equivalents), even they will be hedging their bets. Seems to be the way of it more recently.

 

[Cloo]

Because it's 'anti Establishment' and sadly America is about to find out why you need a medical 'Establishment'

 

[frogwoman]

Assuming that he (or more likely whoever passes for his strategists) is even thinking about it in the first instance, I'd say that he wants the crunchy organic alt-med pseudoscience types on-side, and see appointing RFK as a means of doing that.

There's got to be at least one republican for whom big pharma lobbying is more important than the desire to please Trump?

 

[NoXion]

There's got to be at least one republican for whom big pharma lobbying is more important than the desire to please Trump?

I'm sure there are Republicans like that, but how many of them are likely to be in Trump's circle?

 

[frogwoman]

I'm sure there are Republicans like that, but how many of them are likely to be in Trump's circle?

The GOP senators have got to confirm the appointments right?

 

[Ax^]

The GOP senators have got to confirm the appointments right?

the GOP Senators are not going to go against trump

they let Maga take the party .. not going to buck the thread now

Matt Geatz might be a play too far but even that could happen

 

[BigMoaner]

Ok this is insane.

Trump picks RFK Jr. to be his Department of Health and Human Services secretary | CNN Politics

President-elect Donald Trump has picked Robert F. Kennedy Jr. to be his next secretary of the Department of Health and Human Services, a choice that would add to Trump’s list of provocative picks whose confirmation processes will test the loyalty of Senate Republicans.

amp.cnn.com

 

[Yossarian]

If the Republicans are as riven with infighting as the Tories surely there's at least one who won't do Trump's bidding?

Three of the seven Republicans who found Trump guilty in the second impeachment trial are still in the Senate so they might be able to thwart some of Trump's stupidest nominations, though he might be able to use loopholes to sneak past the confirmation process

 

[Humberto]

Thankfully for the time being the Tories aren't in place in the UK to harmonise food standards with this fuckers' whims for 'enterprise' or something. Unless we do anyway.

 

[NoXion]

The GOP senators have got to confirm the appointments right?

I think they'll be brought into line. As Ax^ pointed out, they let Republican party be taken over by MAGA, which itself metastasised from the Tea Party nonsense.

 

[frogwoman]

So what the hell happens to eg drugs imported from the US now? They are not going to necessarily be safe

 

[NoXion]

So what the hell happens to eg drugs imported from the US now? They are not going to necessarily be safe

Fuck knows! I'd hope that the rest of the world push back against the nonsense somehow, but unfortunately I'm not optimistic about that.

 

[Orang Utan]

So what the hell happens to eg drugs imported from the US now? They are not going to necessarily be safe

they're not necessarily safe now, so this is terrifying news

 

[frogwoman]

Fuck knows! I'd hope that the rest of the world push back against the nonsense somehow, but unfortunately I'm not optimistic about that.

I agree.

 

[krtek a houby]

look most Americans are highly religious to a fault

if they did not take god sending a fucking plague during his first term as a hint

they deserve Everything that's coming to them

Hope not. Some of us have family there. Flawed and all (like most of us) but I loves them.

 

[Ax^]

fair play boyo ..

trump voters will have only themselves to blame mind

 

[Humberto]

They all look like Kane from Nod. (command and conquer ref.)

 

[Dogsauce]

He’s giving a job to that weirdo Gorka apparently. There will be no barrel left to scrape soon, except for poor old MTG. I guess he has some standards.

I think there might need to be some lettuces out for lifespan comparisons with some of these appointments.

 

[Yuwipi Woman]

I am not sure - these appointments and the demand that they be appointed on the nod really suggest that they aren’t going to do anything effective to change things. It seems mad to say this given their likely control of congress but these are the appointments of a weak regime, where the ruler is terrified of alternative centres of power forming within the government and so puts up eunuchs.

If RFK was at health, agriculture or climate change with a blank cheque to do what he wants then he’d probably have done something (positive or negative), ditto Musk if he actually gets power to reform government spending. Those he’s appointed though are all fifth-rate TV mouthpieces who are really unlikely to have the ability to enforce change or manage internal dissent, never mind events as they unfold.

I suppose ineffectual dithering is about the best we can hope for. We really have a load of issues that could use some attention, but better no attention than bad attention, I guess.

 

[Yuwipi Woman]

Didn't know who he was, just read his wiki page, fucking astonishing. And after paragraph after paragraph of filth about him, it ends with the words 'Gaetz is a Baptist'. Gruesome.

I knew who he was. Basically, he's everything that the Republicans accuse the Democrats of being--corrupt, a pedophile, a human trafficker, and absolute nut job.

 

[Yuwipi Woman]

His defense sec pic has Deus Vult and dodgy jerusalem cross tattoos. Great.

I had to look this up. Holy shit!

 

[Yuwipi Woman]

With Trump, you are constantly nipping between layers of preposterousness, but this seems to be a cabinet made purely of provocation. The papers are talking about loyalty being the key and that might be a similar thing when it comes to Trump. But sheesh, if you were to design a cabinet based on who would blow a collective gasket in the civilised bit of humanity, this is it. Really hard to see if this is just a fuck you, but he's got to realise that these people need to be able to deliver something. Maybe we just hadn't realised quite how insane the Trump 2 project is. I say 'Trump 2' largely because I've been too depressed to read up about Project 2025, but this is Trump 2. It's something he's doing and is about his, yuk, legacy. If it was a sitcom, you'd still find it distasteful, but fucking hell, an actual thing?

I'm probably off base here, but I wonder if he's nominating completely unqualified people who probably won't make it through confirmation so he can nominate someone else who is quite radical, but less provocative than the current nominee. I've seen him do similar as a negotiating tactic in the past.

 

[Yuwipi Woman]

Because it's 'anti Establishment' and sadly America is about to find out why you need a medical 'Establishment'

You would have thought we'd have learned that during the pandemic when 1.2 million people died. Instead, we have people calling for Fauci to be prosecuted. For what exactly no one can seem to say.

 

[Yuwipi Woman]

fair play boyo ..

trump voters will have only themselves to blame mind

Taking responsibility for their own choices is not the Republican way. They'll happily tell others to do so, but aren't so keen on it themselves.

 

[spring-peeper]

I keep seeing this showing up a lot wrt Trump and company

"When a clown moves into a palace, he doesn't become a king.​

The palace becomes a circus.”​

— Turkish proverb​

Put it here and not in the ridicule thread because it is not funny.

 

[Humberto]

The Ottomans also perfected impalement. After they they ousted Byzantia, who perfected crucifiction.

 

[DaveCinzano]

If Trump dies after the election is certified by Congress on Jan. 6, Vance becomes president, not sure what will happen if Trump dies between now and certification - some states require Electoral College electors to vote for the presidential candidate that got the most votes, so they'd probably quickly change their laws to allow them to vote for Vance, or elect Dead Don, who would be succeeded by Vance as soon as the election was certified

 

[moochedit]

The GOP senators have got to confirm the appointments right?

Yeah they do eventually but (as i understand it) there is a loophole when congress is in recess which delays that process.