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Still reeling from this election. I mean, what the actual fuck?

There are too many levels of insanity at play. For one, it’s insane that Trump was ever allowed to stand for election and wasn’t jailed for his terrorist, insurrectionist plot to install himself as dictator. This article lays a lot of the blame at Biden’s Attorney General, Merritt Garland for being to reluctant and slow to prosecute Trump. I suspect Trump’s puppets on the Supreme Court would’ve thrown up road blocks either way, but that’s no excuse to drag your feet in the face of fascist terror. When will liberals learn: appeasing fascists never works, they need to be crushed by any means necessary.

 
Hesketh, the new SecDef, wants 'purity panels' in the DOD to vet, and sack, senior US officers who aren't on the Trump train - he also wants to remove women from combat roles, and probably all roles.

The new Director of CIA is a conspiraloon MAGA creep.
 
kebabking said:
Hesketh, the new SecDef, wants 'purity panels' in the DOD to vet, and sack, senior US officers who aren't on the Trump train - he also wants to remove women from combat roles, and probably all roles.

The new Director of CIA is a conspiraloon MAGA creep.
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What do you see happening with RFK etc?
 
frogwoman said:
What do you see happening with RFK etc?
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Fuck alone knows.

I think it's will unravel, in the same way it did in Trump1, with Trump sacking anyone who bumps ego with him - so I reckon Musks' coat is going to be on a shaky nail - but I also think he'll sack people who deliver his policies that turn out to be hugely unpopular with his base when the dildo of consequences arrives unlubed, so I doubt that RFK will be there long when idiot Trump voters find their healthcare cancelled and start screaming that this policy was only supposed to be for 'the Blacks and the Gays', not for white folks...

He'll make a big show of sacking them because that's what kings do about their unpopular advisors, and then appoint the next loon who'll do his bidding.

I'll be honest, I'm not going to pay much attention to his domestic impact because there's nothing I can do about it.
 
Jeff Robinson said:
Still reeling from this election. I mean, what the actual fuck?

There are too many levels of insanity at play. For one, it’s insane that Trump was ever allowed to stand for election and wasn’t jailed for his terrorist, insurrectionist plot to install himself as dictator. This article lays a lot of the blame at Biden’s Attorney General, Merritt Garland for being to reluctant and slow to prosecute Trump. I suspect Trump’s puppets on the Supreme Court would’ve thrown up road blocks either way, but that’s no excuse to drag your feet in the face of fascist terror. When will liberals learn: appeasing fascists never works, they need to be crushed by any means necessary.

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And Biden - it was clear from the first day of his presidency (even to me) that something needed to be done about the disinformation, propaganda, election fixing and the rest. He did bugger all.
 
Jeff Robinson said:
Still reeling from this election. I mean, what the actual fuck?

There are too many levels of insanity at play. For one, it’s insane that Trump was ever allowed to stand for election and wasn’t jailed for his terrorist, insurrectionist plot to install himself as dictator. This article lays a lot of the blame at Biden’s Attorney General, Merritt Garland for being to reluctant and slow to prosecute Trump. I suspect Trump’s puppets on the Supreme Court would’ve thrown up road blocks either way, but that’s no excuse to drag your feet in the face of fascist terror. When will liberals learn: appeasing fascists never works, they need to be crushed by any means necessary.

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Yeh I am still reeling from this election. I really can't quite get my head around it.
 
DotCommunist said:
before they were bessies trump mugged him off fairly thoroughly with this

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I'm not given to violent thoughts generally, but Musk's smug grin really gives me the urge to slap him round the face.
 
Yuwipi Woman said:
I've been looking at his appointments. These people are absolutely horrific. It's just one horror after another. It will all end badly.
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I am not sure - these appointments and the demand that they be appointed on the nod really suggest that they aren’t going to do anything effective to change things. It seems mad to say this given their likely control of congress but these are the appointments of a weak regime, where the ruler is terrified of alternative centres of power forming within the government and so puts up eunuchs.

If RFK was at health, agriculture or climate change with a blank cheque to do what he wants then he’d probably have done something (positive or negative), ditto Musk if he actually gets power to reform government spending. Those he’s appointed though are all fifth-rate TV mouthpieces who are really unlikely to have the ability to enforce change or manage internal dissent, never mind events as they unfold.
 
agricola said:
I am not sure - these appointments and the demand that they be appointed on the nod really suggest that they aren’t going to do anything effective to change things. It seems mad to say this given their likely control of congress but these are the appointments of a weak regime, where the ruler is terrified of alternative centres of power forming within the government and so puts up eunuchs.

If RFK was at health, agriculture or climate change with a blank cheque to do what he wants then he’d probably have done something (positive or negative), ditto Musk if he actually gets power to reform government spending. Those he’s appointed though are all fifth-rate TV mouthpieces who are really unlikely to have the ability to enforce change or manage internal dissent, never mind events as they unfold.
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Objectively, this isn't a weak regime, with a 'decent economy' and control of all branches of government. Also, Trump doesn't have to deliver in the sense of getting re-elected. There's scope for all kinds of shit to be at least tried out with these monsters at the helm and seeking to please their master. Reality might be the thing that slows them down, but not till some real damage has been done. However Trump will want some legacy policies, Ozymandias type malarkey.

There will certainly be sackings aplenty as one of the loons tries some nonsense out, blames other people, then gets sacked. What happens at that point is probably the interesting bit of the cycle: will the sacking of a loon lead to a more pragmatic appointment or an uber-loon?
 
Wilf said:
Objectively, this isn't a weak regime, with a 'decent economy' and control of all branches of government. Also, Trump doesn't have to deliver in the sense of getting re-elected. There's scope for all kinds of shit to be at least tried out with these monsters at the helm and seeking to please their master. Reality might be the thing that slows them down, but not till some real damage has been done. However Trump will want some legacy policies, Ozymandias type malarkey.

There will certainly be sackings aplenty as one of the loons tries some nonsense out, blames other people, then gets sacked. What happens at that point is probably the interesting bit of the cycle: will the sacking of a loon lead to a more pragmatic appointment or an uber-loon?
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Objectively it isn’t, but these are not objective picks. Look at Huckabee for example, who has no credibility within Israel, never mind with anyone else in the region - one might almost see it as a gesture of contempt to appoint such a nonentity to the most important ally at such a crucial time. Stefanik to the UN certainly is a gesture of contempt for the organization, but she’ll fail completely there because of that.

I think there was a real fear that he’d actually appoint competent people with a mandate to actually change things in line with the various authoritarian blueprints that were going around, but none of these picks (so far) are that. Even Miller’s role might not be very consequential in the end given how many of those sort of figures were discarded in the first term.
 
agricola said:
Objectively it isn’t, but these are not objective picks. Look at Huckabee for example, who has no credibility within Israel, never mind with anyone else in the region - one might almost see it as a gesture of contempt to appoint such a nonentity to the most important ally at such a crucial time. Stefanik to the UN certainly is a gesture of contempt for the organization, but she’ll fail completely there because of that.

I think there was a real fear that he’d actually appoint competent people with a mandate to actually change things in line with the various authoritarian blueprints that were going around, but none of these picks (so far) are that. Even Miller’s role might not be very consequential in the end given how many of those sort of figures were discarded in the first term.
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I agree there's an element of chaos that comes with some of these appointments. They may come up against hard lessons in reality or they may align with other dark forces and produce actual (unpleasant) change. But when it comes to the likes of Huckabee and the impact on the Palestinians, I'm afraid it's likely to be if it walks like a duck...
 
I’d like to think that the Trump regime being comprised of fragile, idiotic man babies who would stab their moms in the back for a nickel means they won’t get to cause huge damage but I’m not sure that follows. History is replete with regimes of that nature which have succeeded in inflicting huge harm on their populations. Whilst their will be rounds of purges, Trump will be the constant - he is a god emperor to his base - and there’ll be a always be a waiting army of snivelling transactionalists waiting to do his bidding and take the place of the last cunt who got the chop. The Trumpist regime will be capable of staggering on, tearing apart the institutions of governance in the process.
 
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agricola said:
I am not sure - these appointments and the demand that they be appointed on the nod really suggest that they aren’t going to do anything effective to change things. It seems mad to say this given their likely control of congress but these are the appointments of a weak regime, where the ruler is terrified of alternative centres of power forming within the government and so puts up eunuchs.

If RFK was at health, agriculture or climate change with a blank cheque to do what he wants then he’d probably have done something (positive or negative), ditto Musk if he actually gets power to reform government spending. Those he’s appointed though are all fifth-rate TV mouthpieces who are really unlikely to have the ability to enforce change or manage internal dissent, never mind events as they unfold.
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It's the authors of Project 2025 who I'd be most worried about. Not the flunkies Trump puts into various cabinet positions to make himself feel
powerful. As far as congress goes? Midterms are in 2026. Plenty of time for Trump to tank the US Economy, anger the non maga people who voted
for him and so on. It's got disaster written all over it.

I'd not be surprised in the least if Trump attempts to become a Dictator (might be an outright failure). The Trump Oligarchy is taking shape, with his family
at the forefront.

If the mass deportation plan goes ahead? I'm guessing Latino and Arab Trump voters might be in for a shock.
Doubt Trumpsters in positions of power will care if someone is an American citizen or not. People will end up stateless no
doubt.
 
One of the fact checks was done caught my eye:

This image shows the beginning of the Trump administration's major crackdown against immigrants who are being sent to Canada from New York City.

Wtf - since when did America start deporting people to Canada???

Turns out the image dates back to September 2022, when immigrants were sent from Texas to Chicago by the state’s Republican governor.

OK then, but what mastermind came up with idea of deporting people to Canada?
 
spring-peeper said:
One of the fact checks was done caught my eye:

This image shows the beginning of the Trump administration's major crackdown against immigrants who are being sent to Canada from New York City.

Wtf - since when did America start deporting people to Canada???

Turns out the image dates back to September 2022, when immigrants were sent from Texas to Chicago by the state’s Republican governor.

OK then, but what mastermind came up with idea of deporting people to Canada?
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Trump? Edit for the last question not at poster.
 
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spring-peeper said:
One of the fact checks was done caught my eye:

This image shows the beginning of the Trump administration's major crackdown against immigrants who are being sent to Canada from New York City.

Wtf - since when did America start deporting people to Canada???

Turns out the image dates back to September 2022, when immigrants were sent from Texas to Chicago by the state’s Republican governor.

OK then, but what mastermind came up with idea of deporting people to Canada?
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That's definitely fake news, the Trump administration isn't deporting immigrants to Canada or anywhere else because there won't be a Trump administration in charge until January
 
Yossarian said:
That's definitely fake news, the Trump administration isn't deporting immigrants to Canada or anywhere else because there won't be a Trump administration in charge until January
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Oh, I realise that Trump hasn't started doing anything yet, but leave us out of it.

We have enough people crossing from the US to Canada as it is right now. It is causing all sorts of problems. We don't need any more American refugees.
 
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There's around 100,000 Canadians living illegally in the US, according to some estimates, but I don't think the Trump administration is going to give a shit about deporting them unless they're Mexican Canadians
 
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