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[Kid_Eternity]

The falling out is going to be inevitable and hilarious - Musk might have spent $200 million on getting Trump elected, turned Xitter into an offshoot of the Trump campaign, and alienated tens of millions of potential Tesla buyers, but he still supported the DeSantis campaign early on and I don't think Trump's going to forget that any sooner than he'll make Michael Cohen attorney general

I doubt Trump will care about that given Musks support now; the big risk is Elon getting more attention now than Trump…but absolutely it’s going to be very amusing watching it play out. We’re going to need a bigger popcorn bucket!

 

[BigMoaner]

This won’t go well, two big egos this close and using each other this much…

‘This is odd’: Elon Musk compared to ‘guest who wouldn’t leave’ after lengthy Mar-a-Lago stay — The Independent

Unnerved Trump staffers claimed that Musk had been sitting in on Trump’s calls with world leaders and weighing in on staffing decisions

apple.news

Good article. One of them will loose their rag with the other eventually, won’t they.

 

[Kid_Eternity]

Good article. One of them will loose their rag with the other eventually, won’t they.

I think so, they’re both known for it, both very insecure and self centred…

 

[Lord Camomile]

This Rick Scott guy, a front runner for leader of the senate - who has a net worth of hundreds of millions of dollars - sure sounds like a man after Trump’s heart. Via Wikipedia:

“Scott was pressured to resign as chief executive of Columbia/HCA in 1997. During his tenure as chief executive, the company defraudedMedicare, Medicaid, and other federal programs. The Department of Justice won 14 felony convictions against the company, which was fined $1.7 billion in what was at the time the largest healthcare fraud settlement in U.S. history...

In August 2022, Business Insider found that Scott had violated the Stop Trading on Congressional Knowledge (STOCK) Act of 2012, a federal transparency and conflict-of-interest law that requires members of Congress to report certain types of financial transactions within 45 days, after Scott and his wife sold stock in Emida Corporation worth up to $450,000 in September 2021 and Scott did not report it until August 2022.”

My initial thought was "someone's probably put(ting) a list together of all the felony convictions of Trump and his mates", so you had everything laid out in one place to show his supporters.

Of course, sadly, it feels like most of them wouldn't care, and it would likely just cause them to double down on the whole "government is corrupt, any convictions are fraudulent, it's a witch hunt" stuff, at which point you're left with them being even further entrenched than before.

 

[frogwoman]

'Elon has always been a lousy CEO! Tesla and Twitter became total disasters under his leadership! Now he wants to take credit for my election campaign, while not accomplishing anything himself! Sad!'

 

[moochedit]

'Elon has always been a lousy CEO! Tesla and Twitter became total disasters under his leadership! Now he wants to take credit for my election campaign, while not accomplishing anything himself! Sad!'

Should be in CAPITALS

 

[DotCommunist]

before they were bessies trump mugged him off fairly thoroughly with this

 

[pbsmooth]

I think Trump was right then and still is frankly… Musk is insanely desperate for attention and to be loved. And govt money.

 

[moochedit]

I think Trump was right then and still is frankly… Musk is insanely desperate for attention and to be loved. And govt money.

Yeah stopped clocks and all that.

 

[frogwoman]

before they were bessies trump mugged him off fairly thoroughly with this

Hahaha I remember that . Yeah this bromance is not gonna last.

 

[BigMoaner]

before they were bessies trump mugged him off fairly thoroughly with this

Savage. Up there with there best of U75 musk haters’ slams.

 

[BigMoaner]

“Rockets to nowhere”

 

[BigMoaner]

Surely written by an aide

 

[Monkeygrinder's Organ]

Trump is pretty good at slagging people off to be fair. Nearly 80 years of finely honed bullying experience.

Might as well enjoy it when it's directed at someone like Musk I suppose.

 

[DotCommunist]

Surely written by an aide

As much as I hate it I have seen to many examples of his skill with the insult, its him. Hurtful mocking is breathing to him.

 

[BigMoaner]

Trump is pretty good at slagging people off to be fair. Nearly 80 years of finely honed bullying experience.

Might as well enjoy it when it's directed at someone like Musk I suppose.

It’s so good in this instance you can barely add or take anything from it. You can almost see the damn mike drop at the end.

 

[BigMoaner]

Even the commas in it are hateful

 

[Dogsauce]

As much as I hate it I have seen to many examples of his skill with the insult, its him. Hurtful mocking is breathing to him.

The lack of CAPS suggests it was at least dictated to an aide.

 

[Dogsauce]

My initial thought was "someone's probably put(ting) a list together of all the felony convictions of Trump and his mates", so you had everything laid out in one place to show his supporters.

Of course, sadly, it feels like most of them wouldn't care, and it would likely just cause them to double down on the whole "government is corrupt, any convictions are fraudulent, it's a witch hunt" stuff, at which point you're left with them being even further entrenched than before.

Jailing your political opponents (or at least attempting to) if anything will just galvanise their supporters and reinforce their feigned victimhood. Wasn’t a particular good strategy by the Democratic Party. That line Trump had: “They’re not after me, they’re after you, I’m just stood in the way” was a pretty good one tbf.

Not that the fucker doesn’t deserve to be in jail, but the timing and optics of the cases against him was counterproductive. And I realise this was in part due to the Supreme Court stalling things.

 

[Lord Camomile]

before they were bessies trump mugged him off fairly thoroughly with this

It's long felt that one 'advantage' the right has is that they're generally willing to overlook past offences if there's a profit to it. To forget, as long as it's self-interestedly beneficial, if not forgive.

Disagreed with me in the past? Insulted me? Called into question everything I am and believe in? If I can use you now, then I'm not going to let all that get in my way.

Obviously depends on the circumstance, often blows up eventually, and both are known to aggressively hold grudges. Seemingly, though, for the time-being at least they're happy to play along. Hell, given how little consideration they both give to reality, in the moment they may even believe it themselves.

 

[Lord Camomile]

Jailing your political opponents (or at least attempting to) if anything will just galvanise their supporters and reinforce their feigned victimhood. Wasn’t a particular good strategy by the Democratic Party. That line Trump had: “They’re not after me, they’re after you, I’m just stood in the way” was a pretty good one tbf.

Not that the fucker doesn’t deserve to be in jail, but the timing and optics of the cases against him was counterproductive. And I realise this was in part due to the Supreme Court stalling things.

Aye, exactly.

It's having to pause that natural instinct and realise that people won't react the same way you do to the same information/events. So if you want to get to a certain conclusion, you have to figure out what will get them there, not what would get you there.

 

[frogwoman]

Can't help wondering whether the prosecutor and felon stuff hurt Kamala among minorities in a country where law enforcement is hardly known for being ideal

 

[Lord Camomile]

Can't help wondering whether the prosecutor and felon stuff hurt Kamala among minorities in a country where law enforcement is hardly known for being ideal

Yeah, think it was said at the time that it was a bit of a double-edged sword, from a number of different perspectives.

 

[frogwoman]

Yeah, think it was said at the time that it was a bit of a double-edged sword, from a number of different perspectives.

Also because imo that's a big reason why he's so well liked. People love him because he's such a bastard.

 

[Wilf]

If Trump dies after the election is certified by Congress on Jan. 6, Vance becomes president, not sure what will happen if Trump dies between now and certification - some states require Electoral College electors to vote for the presidential candidate that got the most votes, so they'd probably quickly change their laws to allow them to vote for Vance, or elect Dead Don, who would be succeeded by Vance as soon as the election was certified

Hmmm.... Dead Don inaugurated President, I'm pitching this as the next dark sitcom. All his swivel eyed cabinet competing to pitch mad ideas to his slowly rotting cadaver.... actually, no, that's a bit too close to the truth.

 

[frogwoman]

I don't think Vance would have won as definitely. I think Trump still has a certain cachet based on his past life as a businessman etc.

 

[Wilf]

I don't think Vance would have won as definitely. I think Trump still has a certain cachet based on his past life as a businessman etc.

Whoa... Trump's Past Lives, I'm having that as my next pitch!

'Evidence has emerged of a previously unknown Orange Pharoah'

 

[Lord Camomile]

I think Trump still has a certain cachet based on his past life as a businessman etc.

Which, again, is fucking insane.

But yeah, it really does seem evident that is a large part of the appeal.

 

[krtek a houby]

I guess all the political prisoners of January 6th will be pardoned and released.

 

[moochedit]

Which, again, is fucking insane.

But yeah, it really does seem evident that is a large part of the appeal.

Business owners do seem to get admirred/worshiped in by many in america sadly