That seems like good logic
The Ashes 2023
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littlebabyjesus
one of Maxwell's demons
Yeah it's getting greedy, like with the declaration in the first test, that comes back and bites you. Aus bowled pretty well this morning, but they still took them for five an over. Good job.
WhyLikeThis
Something, something, something
Mark Butcher just made a good point, if England need to bat again and there’s a time pressure, Australia can control the over rate. Better to let Bairstow play out his innings then bring them in.
Monkeygrinder's Organ
Dodgy geezer swilling vapid lager
Yes exactly. Some people are talking as if running up a huge score at over a run a ball and then knocking Australia over cheaply is really easily done, and it's not is it. They took a pasting yesterday but they're still the number one ranked team in the world and have been good enough to win two of the last three tests against England. Bazball or not you still have to respect your opponent's qualities.
littlebabyjesus
one of Maxwell's demons
Not sure they can bowl them any more slowly than they currently doing, mind you. 12 an hour in that session.
Wilf
Slouching towards Billingham
Can't disagree with any of that, I just suppose England are in a bind here. Fantastic performance but the weather will probably beat them unless a couple of (obvious) things fall into place. They'll almost certainly need a couple of hours cricket or more on Sunday and they'll also need to get Australia out. Tough call whether to press on after lunch, with Broad coming in (I think)? Anyway, all I'm really saying is I'd have thought 'get to a 200 lead by lunch' would have been this morning's priority.
And then disagreeing with myself completely, if England go with aggressive fields, Australia have still got an excellent batting line up and could erode the lead pretty quickly. Australia's mind set will be interesting, whether their negative bowling approach carries on into the batting, which might be fatal. So, there we are, I haven't got a feckin clue.
littlebabyjesus
one of Maxwell's demons
The new ball doing plenty for Aus is a very good sign. 
Get as much scoreboard pressure as possible and attack. If Aus are, say, 220 behind with 50+ overs to survive today and the ball is swinging, they might not fancy it much.
But yes, I still think they're likely to need some play on Sunday (assuming tomorrow is washed out). They've done amazingly well to force it to this place already.
Get as much scoreboard pressure as possible and attack. If Aus are, say, 220 behind with 50+ overs to survive today and the ball is swinging, they might not fancy it much.But yes, I still think they're likely to need some play on Sunday (assuming tomorrow is washed out). They've done amazingly well to force it to this place already.
Wilf
Slouching towards Billingham
Yep, whether there be run fines for deliberate slow play or not, there should at least be a role for the umpire. With all cricket's circumlocutions and formulations, they should at least be able to tell the captain to 'fucking get on with it'.
littlebabyjesus
one of Maxwell's demons
We'll find out in a second. They have to announce the declaration by 1.30.
littlebabyjesus
one of Maxwell's demons
Stupid thing is that they are able to say exactly that. But they never do. There need to be in-game penalties as they now have in white ball games. Only solution.
WhyLikeThis
Something, something, something
Not looking too good.
Wilf
Slouching towards Billingham
But now fine. Hope it's not heading south.
Wilf
Slouching towards Billingham
Further pointless weather update from a place where they are not actually playing: blue sky and a mixture of grey and white clouds. Looks like it could be 'one of those afternoons'.But now fine. Hope it's not heading south.
Monkeygrinder's Organ
Dodgy geezer swilling vapid lager
Could go either way couldn't it. The rain might save Australia but if it holds off it looks like it'll be horrible conditions to bat in, could really help England.
littlebabyjesus
one of Maxwell's demons
Ok now I would declare. A lead of 220, probably about 55 overs to bowl today, about perfect.
QueenOfGoths
Fuck you Dave!
Bairstow larrupping it around is good fun. And a 4 from Jimmy!!
QueenOfGoths
Fuck you Dave!
I'm listening to TMS and my phone is running out of power. Going to have to watch these highlights later!!
Elpenor
a clown’s heart and a mandolin
Not this time
littlebabyjesus
one of Maxwell's demons
Gonna have to stay out for his ton now.I was thinking they would declare when JB got 50.
That was about 20 minutes ago and now hes looking at a ton
littlebabyjesus
one of Maxwell's demons
He's come close before.
skyscraper101
0891 50 50 50
Nah, keep going. Great entertainment this.
littlebabyjesus
one of Maxwell's demons
Yeah this is total demoralisation now. Wheels had just been screwed back on. They're now bouncing off towards Liverpool.
Elpenor
a clown’s heart and a mandolin
At 86 off 70 balls having hit a few 6s, I fancied his chances but need to have a few bad balls bowled I guess
QueenOfGoths
Fuck you Dave!
I'm chuckling to myself on the train "wonderfully chaotic" is TMS's verdict!! Love it
