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Where are these 'huge reported turnouts'?
What reallyChris Grayling has just been nominated for the Lords in Sunak’s dissolution honours
He's announcing them already?Chris Grayling has just been nominated for the Lords in Sunak’s dissolution honours
What really
We'll find out in half an hour (if true).Where are these 'huge reported turnouts'?
Well exactly, I wondered if there were any reliable early reports it was just twitter bumphWe'll find out in half an hour (if true).
Can't see anything on google news. I don''t know if major news orgs are allowed to report turnout before 10pm? I know there are some reporting restrictions during polling hours.Well exactly, I wondered if there were any reliable early reports it was just twitter bumph
Yeah, fwiw, as far as I'm bothered either way, I suppose I'm vaguely in favour of PR because it's a more democratic system, if 15% or 30% or whatever proportion of people are supporting the far-right then that's a problem that you can't just magic away by not giving them enough seats, I don't think you can say that democracy's bad because people might make the wrong choice... but also, fundamentally, PR would destroy the Labour and Conservative parties in their current incarnations, and so I'm not going to hold my breath for a Labour, or indeed Tory, leader to go "alright everyone, I'm going to introduce a reform that will immediately cause our party to split and never be able to rule again except as part of a coalition."Yeah, not convinced that a party that gets 70%+ of the seats on 39%of the vote is going to that hard on PR - the Tories might become converts, but I don't see much sympathy for them in the body politic.
Big thing is that quite simply, the quasi-Fascists are going to get 0.5-1% of the seats on 15+% of the vote. There's going to be a very large slice of that body politic who think that any unfairness to the LD's or Greens is a reasonable price to pay for not having 90+ Faragist MP's in the commons.
I like that he didn't question adoption of tory austerity policies, abandoning environmental commitments, support for genocide, weaponizing antisemitism accusations while taking no action against party employees who actually caused the problem, expelling thousands of labour members for no good reason including Black and Jewish ones ...Are you effing serious?
yeh I can't watch that. Trying BBC but I may have to turn the sound down and watch Father Ted instead. .Jesus christ. Channel 4 has Dorries, Kwarteng and then cut over to Alastair fucking Campbell. Its not a great start.
that and 131 for the tories looks a bit contradictoryReferendum 13 Ffs.
Corrected to Reform. Bloody autocorrect.that and 131 for the tories looks a bit contradictory
Referendum 13 Ffs.
How so? RefUK will have replaced Tory in places like Louth & Horncastle and maybe even Truss's constituency in Norfolkthat and 131 for the tories looks a bit contradictory