The 2024 UK General Election - news, speculation and updates

[gosub]

As well as the Sky tv stuff, ratboy said he grew up in a house where community service was important. Is that true? What did he do to serve the community? Come on Fact checkers!

Outreach

A culture of service William of Wykeham’s focus on service pervades the school’s long history. Through our community relationships, pupils lea...

www.winchestercollege.org

 

[Sue]

That's what I mean, he is claiming that it's going to be either Starmer or Sunak, as things stand now it's going to be Starmer, Starmer or possibly Starmer.

A Tory MP a couple of weeks before a GE is hardly going to say that Labour are going to win. Even if that's the likely outcome/what he actually thinks.

 

[Silas Loom]

Outreach

A culture of service William of Wykeham’s focus on service pervades the school’s long history. Through our community relationships, pupils lea...

www.winchestercollege.org

Hence the cunning idea of mandating noblesse oblige to 18 year olds, without a thought to the impracticalities.

 

[Silas Loom]

A Tory MP a couple of weeks before a GE is hardly going to say that Labour are going to win. Even if that's the likely outcome/what he actually thinks.

He more or less has, though. And Shapps is always on message, however mad the official line.

 

[Wilf]

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A culture of service William of Wykeham’s focus on service pervades the school’s long history. Through our community relationships, pupils lea...

www.winchestercollege.org

Well there's an element of community service in there, quite literally in terms of spending time on it. But it's also that truly horrible form of 'community service' which fails to question the gap between rich and poor and indeed actively reinforces it.

Part of the reason I asked was I vaguely remembered Sunak coming out with similar stuff around the time he either challenged for the leadership or became leader. Here it is from his website, though I have a feeling it was also repeated in an Ashcroft biography at the time:

I grew up watching my parents serve our local community with dedication. My dad was an NHS family GP and my mum ran her own local chemist shop

About Me

I grew up watching my parents serve our local community with dedication. My dad is a NHS family GP and my mum ran her own local chemist shop. As an MP, I want to make that same positive difference to people here and I now live in Kirby Sigston, just outside Northallerton.

www.rishisunak.com

Unless I've missed something, community service seems to mean having a shop. Well, y'know: 'prescription for Williams... what's the address please?'

 

[JimW]

It is of course to do with local authority funding. However as told by my uncle, who used to work on highway maintenance, It’s actually quite tricky due to the extremes of temperature we can have here. You need tarmac that doesn’t melt in summer and doesn’t get destroyed by salt in the winter. other countries of course seem to manage this. What are the roads like in Poland.

It goes from minus twenty in winter to almost forty in summer here and the roads aren't as bad.

 

[two sheds]

You have to agree to the value of hard work, though, his mum ran a lowly chemist shop but sheer hard work on his part ...

Different topic:

South Australia introduces ‘world-leading’ bill to ban political donations from elections

Premier says move will end the ‘nexus between money and political power’ and challenges state and federal counterparts to follow suit

www.theguardian.com

interested to see how that goes.

 

[steveo87]

So far this morning I've seen Sunak saying he had to go without Sky telly when he was a kid and Starmer talking about cleaning his dad's cortina. When does this fucking end?

Itsbeveryday! It's gloriously, hilariously, shite and I'm loving every minute of it.

 

[kebabking]

It is of course to do with local authority funding. However as told by my uncle, who used to work on highway maintenance, It’s actually quite tricky due to the extremes of temperature we can have here. You need tarmac that doesn’t melt in summer and doesn’t get destroyed by salt in the winter. other countries of course seem to manage this. What are the roads like in Poland.

Pretty impressive - some make Shropshire look good, but I found the fast roads in particular to be in much better nick than those in the UK despite the vastly more severe climate.

Sad to say, the UK's roads are more comparable with Romania, Bulgaria and - dare I say it - Ukraine than the places we more traditionally benchmark ourselves with.

I know my Statecrush with Finland gets tedious, but even up in the Arctic circle the roads are in an infinitely better state than ours.

 

[Artaxerxes]

Pretty impressive - some make Shropshire look good, but I found the fast roads in particular to be in much better nick than those in the UK despite the vastly more severe climate.

Sad to say, the UK's roads are more comparable with Romania, Bulgaria and - dare I say it - Ukraine than the places we more traditionally benchmark ourselves with.

I know my Statecrush with Finland gets tedious, but even up in the Arctic circle the roads are in an infinitely better state than ours.

The roads are bad and the pavements are horrible here. I’m surprised how popular e-scooters are when every pavement is multi coloured types of lumpy tarmac and crazy paving

 

[Sue]

Wasn't sure where to put this.

'David Boddy, chair of ASIS, a business consultancy for the education sector, said he had spoken to parents “with tears in their eyes”, many of whom had decided to take out large loans to provide a buffer against rising fees.'

Not just sadness in their eyes. Full-blown tears.

‘Tearful’ parents forced to remortgage under Labour’s private school tax raid

Struggling families face a further 20pc hit, pushing them ‘beyond breaking point’

www.telegraph.co.uk

 

[souljacker]

Wasn't sure where to put this.

'David Boddy, chair of ASIS, a business consultancy for the education sector, said he had spoken to parents “with tears in their eyes”, many of whom had decided to take out large loans to provide a buffer against rising fees.'

Not just sadness in their eyes. Full-blown tears.

‘Tearful’ parents forced to remortgage under Labour’s private school tax raid

Struggling families face a further 20pc hit, pushing them ‘beyond breaking point’

www.telegraph.co.uk

They aren't very bright these people are they? Maybe wait until the policy is actually presented to the house first? They aren't going to instantly be charged more on the 5th July.

 

[xenon]

Why are they remortgaging before labour have even got in and the policy set out in detail?

Is the VAT going to start from next term?

 

[Pickman's model]

Why are they remortgaging before labour have even got in and the policy set out in detail?

Is the VAT going to start from next term?

Only if you're very pessimistick

 

[Pickman's model]

They aren't very bright these people are they? Maybe wait until the policy is actually presented to the house first? They aren't going to instantly be charged more on the 5th July.

Not for the brief period from then until the end of term anyway

 

[brogdale]

Not for the brief period from then until the end of term anyway

I think for most posho private schools Trinity term finishes before 5th July; they all love those cheaper, pre-state school holiday lets

 

[brogdale]

Although, I should say that at Eton they describe the third 'half' as "Summer"; ends before July...

 

[Monkeygrinder's Organ]

Wasn't sure where to put this.

'David Boddy, chair of ASIS, a business consultancy for the education sector, said he had spoken to parents “with tears in their eyes”, many of whom had decided to take out large loans to provide a buffer against rising fees.'

Not just sadness in their eyes. Full-blown tears.

‘Tearful’ parents forced to remortgage under Labour’s private school tax raid

Struggling families face a further 20pc hit, pushing them ‘beyond breaking point’

www.telegraph.co.uk

They must be gutted they're not at 'leaving the country if Labour get in' levels of wealth.

 

[Elpenor]

The husband of someone I know from Uni is standing for the lib dems in Windsor, he also stood in 2019, and believe the Tory incumbent had stood down. He is an established councillor there so perhaps a good chance.

 

[The39thStep]

 

[SpookyFrank]

They aren't very bright these people are they?

They're paying through the nose for something that's free, so no.

 

[two sheds]

Tory MP’s election leaflet includes picture of Reform leader Nigel Farage

Dame Andrea Jenkyns has previously described Nigel Farage as a ‘conservative to the core’ and ‘one of the most influential politicians of our generation’

www.independent.co.uk

A Tory MP who previously described Nigel Farage as a “true patriot” has put a picture of the Reform UK leader on her election leaflets.

Dame Andrea Jenkyns has said the arch-Brexiteer is a “conservative to the core” and “one of the most influential politicians of our generation”.

In fact, Dame Andrew admires Mr Farage so much that she has put a picture of the two fo them smiling together in a prominent position at the top of her re-election leaflet.

As well as putting a picture of an opposing party leader on the handout it also contains no clear references to the Tory Party at all.

 

[two sheds]

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If his father was a toolmaker (I understand his father was a toolmaker) you'd think he'd have a tool that could repair a fucking window.

 

[planetgeli]

Although, I should say that at Eton they describe the third 'half' as "Summer"; ends before July...

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I have learned that in the 15th century until the 1800s Eton had two halves and taught only Latin (Greek was added in the 17th century, I imagine to much initial outrage).

Then in 1851 they introduced maths to the syllabus and the teacher was really shit so now they have 3 halves.

And I've made hardly any of that up.

 

[MickiQ]

VAT on private school fees is something of a niche issue, the parents at the superduper expensive ones won't notice it, those at the more hoi polloi ones will but there aren't a great many of those I suspect as a percentage of the total population.
It's not really going to enrage the masses, people complaining about having to cut back to afford school fees aren't really going to get a lot of sympathy from people having to cut back to pay the rent.

 

[agricola]

Rishi Sunak aide placed bet on election date days before announcement

Exclusive: £100 bet placed in Montgomeryshire – the constituency of Craig Williams – over July poll

www.theguardian.com

 

[Leafster]

VAT on private school fees is something of a niche issue, the parents at the superduper expensive ones won't notice it, those at the more hoi polloi ones will but there aren't a great many of those I suspect as a percentage of the total population.
It's not really going to enrage the masses, people complaining about having to cut back to afford school fees aren't really going to get a lot of sympathy from people having to cut back to pay the rent.

According to my 'current' MP (a Tory), 1 in 4 pupils in Surrey go to an independent school.

ETA: Looking at Surrey County Council data from 2022 they reckoned it was just under 1 in 5 back then.

 

[planetgeli]

Rishi Sunak aide placed bet on election date days before announcement

Exclusive: £100 bet placed in Montgomeryshire – the constituency of Craig Williams – over July poll

www.theguardian.com

Fucking morons. He did it in his own name. He did it, full stop. He's that desperate for an extra £500? Though I suppose with the school fees VAT thing...

"I should have thought how it looks" He actually said this.

 

[ska invita]

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Say what you like about Thatcher but she didn't have Sky TV.

 

[brogdale]

Rishi Sunak aide placed bet on election date days before announcement

Exclusive: £100 bet placed in Montgomeryshire – the constituency of Craig Williams – over July poll

www.theguardian.com

I actually feel sorry for Armando Iannucci