Operation pillar of cloud. Israeli assault on Gaza

[dylans]

I know they're always militarily weaker, I meant more logistically and the level of popular support in the strip

Well of course, nothing is more likely to increase support for Hamas then Israel bombing the shit out of them.

The biggest weakness not only for Hamas but for the Palestinian resistance in general is not Gaza but Palestinian division and the collaborator police state run by Abbas in the West Bank. The PA is the biggest millstone around the necks of the Palestinians and we should never forget that Abbas secretly approved of cast lead.

 

[ViolentPanda]

Last time I saw a photo those things are guided by two rails and maths. Tremble before such wrath.

Yep. No guidance system, just trigonometry, and most of them use impact fuses, so there's only a 50-60% chance of detonation.

 

[IC3D]

Well of course, nothing is more likely to increase support for Hamas then Israel bombing the shit out of them.

The biggest weakness not only for Hamas but for the Palestinian resistance in general is not Gaza but Palestinian division and the collaborator police state run by Abbas in the West Bank. The PA is the biggest millstone around the necks of the Palestinians and we should never forget that Abbas secretly approved of cast lead.

I think the Hamas leadership falling out and leaving the safety of their Damascus operations base under the wing of Assad (30,000) or so killed more than Israel so far this year has had a big impact
Syria slams Hamas leader as rifts with former ally widen

 

[ViolentPanda]

wtf?

Oh come on, Bish, why wouldn't they? It'd buy Fat Benny and his fellow rat-fuckers credibility with their US backers, allow them to destroy all the infrastructure repaired and renovated since Cast Lead and keep their infantry in training.

 

[elbows]

Jon Williams ‏@WilliamsJon
11 month old son of BBC colleague killed in #Gaza. Sister-in-law killed, brother critically injured. Civilians always casualties of conflict

 

[ViolentPanda]

The Palestinians are a bunch of perpetual losers. They deserve nothing.

Giles..

Says Mr. Eugenics. Another example of your hatred of people you cconsider inferior to you, eh Giles?

 

[ViolentPanda]

what do you deserve? perhaps waterboarding.

He isn't worth piss, let alone water.

How about slurry-boarding?

 

[ViolentPanda]

Isn't this just to 'dissuade' Palestine from applying to be a non-member observer state at the UN?

That'll be part of it, but Fat Benny and Co. have shown themselves up for schmucks lately, with all their windbagging about Iran, and getting slapped down by the US, so it's also about posturing for the home crowd, and for their Christian and Jewish supporters in the US.

 

[ViolentPanda]

Can it really be possible that this an official IDF Youtube feed?



That vehicle is being illuminated just before <whatever> hits it.

Not illuminated, "painted" by a laser or other intense light source so that the missile can follow the beam.

 

[ViolentPanda]

Why don't the surrounding muslim countries not allow the Gazans to set up home in some of the massive empty spaces in their nations? Is it perhaps because for all that they claim to "support" their "brothers", they would rather keep them cooped up so as to annoy Israel, rather than really help them out?

Giles..

Because the Palestinians want to be Palestinians, not stateless refugees in someone elses' country, you ignorant, pigshit-thick fuckwad.

 

[frogwoman]

oh no

 

[elbows]

Not illuminated, "painted" by a laser or other intense light source so that the missile can follow the beam.

I dont think its possible to claim thats shown on this video though, may simply be camera image thats changing brightness.

 

[frogwoman]

WTF again ffs

 

[elbows]

Large parts of Gaza city are reported to be without electricity. Obviously I have no way to confirm this myself.

 

[frogwoman]

the cunts

 

[elbows]

IDF really trying to harness the net for propaganda this time around. In addition to the twitter account I quoted from earlier, and the youtube channel, they have a flickr page for the operation.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/idfonline/sets/72157632010545574/with/8185982148/

 

[IC3D]

Because the Palestinians want to be Palestinians, not stateless refugees in someone elses' country, you ignorant, pigshit-thick fuckwad.

The US funded Egyptian government have got a wall in their way to encourage them also.

 

[Treacle Toes]

This streamer is about to broadcast live on RT from #Gaza central http://www.ustream.tv/channel/operation-pillar-of-cloud … (He's already tried the beeb)

 

[ViolentPanda]

What's the "US European Command" when it's at home?

US forces throughout the world are divided into "commands", so EuroCom is "US forces in Europe", i.e. (as far as this exercise was concerned) Germany, Italy and a host of other states where the US has "advisors" and/or maintains facilities for supplying their military.

 

[ViolentPanda]

I don't get the numbers game. Why does it matter who's lost more?

It points up the asymmetry between Palestinian actions, and those actions endorsed by the state of Israel.

 

[Pickman's model]

US forces throughout the world are divided into "commands", so EuroCom is "US forces in Europe", i.e. (as far as this exercise was concerned) Germany, Italy and a host of other states where the US has "advisors" and/or maintains facilities for supplying their military.

 

[ViolentPanda]

I dont think its possible to claim thats shown on this video though, may simply be camera image thats changing brightness.

Sure, but it's a standard targetting method. for air-launched guided munitions.

 

[ViolentPanda]

Large parts of Gaza city are reported to be without electricity. Obviously I have no way to confirm this myself.

Would hardly be surpising, as it's a standard tactic to take out power, water, telecoms and transport infrastructure before sending in ground troops.

 

[elbows]

At this point they havent actually confirmed ground operations, contrary to much earlier message I mentioned, but they have threatened it.

 

[Pickman's model]

Would hardly be surpising, as it's a standard tactic to take out power, water, telecoms and transport infrastructure before sending in ground troops.

and also the israelis like a good collective punishment

 

[Treacle Toes]

Min of Def Ehud Barak's residence stained with red paint by Israeli activists: https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=1724659&l=f497934f76&id=185129341509315 … #GazaUnderAttack HT @zaidjilani

 

[SpookyFrank]

The Palestinians are a bunch of perpetual losers. They deserve nothing.

Giles..

I hope you die both painfully and soon.

 

[Buckaroo]

Here we go! 'Gates of hell have been opened'. 'This is just the beginning!' World war III anyone?

 

[Pickman's model]

I hope you die both painfully and soon.

and slowly, don't forget slowly

 

[Pickman's model]

Here we go! 'Gates of hell have been opened'. 'This is just the beginning!' World war III anyone?