Derailed train in Ohio & giant cloud of polyvinyl chloride
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existentialist
Tired and unemotional
He thinks "shades of grey" refers to a smutty book
agricola
a genuine importer of owls
As an aside it is approaching the ten year anniversary of the Lac-Magantic disaster, caused in a large part by the same things as this.
SpookyFrank
A cheap source of teeth for aquarium gravel
I spend a fair bit of my time going through hazard sheets for various chemicals but I've never yet encountered anything described as a 'megatoxin'.
As for turning 'chernobyl' into a verb, I'd say that's in pretty poor taste. There is a way to talk about these things without resorting to this kind of hyperbolic nonsense.
platinumsage
HaveMyPassword123
Yes, I expect better from UAE Exotic Falconry & Finance, postman wookie bought a saturn swp, and Just Some Fucker.
NoXion
Craicy the Squirrel
It's only the UAE guy who said those things though.
maomao
普費斯
Why in poor taste? No-one's making fun of Chernobyl and, crucially, we know exactly what the writer means - long term environmental devastation of a large area with lasting threat to human life.
two sheds
Least noticed poster 2007
Edit: apologies this seems to play automatically, not sure how to prevent that
Fucking hell the size of the fire, and effects on life
and the headline in case it gets deleted:
Loose Fit
Fucking hell the size of the fire, and effects on life
and the headline in case it gets deleted:
The massive explosion and poisoning of American citizens should be a much bigger story….why isn’t the media talking about Ohio more? What is going on?
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hitmouse
so defeated, thinks it's funny
Posting articles from the World Socialist Web Site as proof the media is covering something, fantastic work. I suppose this also means that the 82nd anniversary of the assassination of Leon Trotsky was a big story in the media?"Norfork Southern and the other Class 1 railroads are seeking to boost profits by cutting crews. Trains that can stretch nearly a mile or more are often operated with just a two-person crew, who themselves are overworked and exhausted from being constantly on call. And the railroads want to even reduce this to single-person crews. Maintenance of ways crews are stretched thin and forced to put “bandaids” on problems which should be properly repaired. Much of the rail cars currently in use are decades old and are not regularly inspected."
Crews burn toxic chemicals from Ohio train crash in “controlled release”
Ohio Governor Mike DeWine warned that fumes released into the air from the venting operation “can be deadly if inhaled.” Officials designated a “red zone” around the site where people faced “grave danger of death” from breathing in the fumes.www.wsws.org
"Among other things, the lawsuit says the railroad failed to maintain and inspect its tracks and rail cars, failed to provide appropriate employee training, and failed to reasonably warn the public. Greg Regan, president of the AFL-CIO’s Transportation Trades Department coalition, said he worries the chances of a catastrophic derailment are increasing because major freight railroads have eliminated roughly one-third of their workers over the past six years. Companies have shifted to running fewer, longer trains and say they don’t need as many crews, mechanics and locomotives."
Ohio derailment that released toxic chemicals raises railroad safety questions
Rail unions believe the industry has gotten riskier in recent years after widespread job cuts left workers spread thin.www.pbs.org
News supression in action!
Yeah, I had been thinking about posting this on the Biden thread for that reason - the fact that rail unions/workers had been warning about safety, and wanted to strike over unsustainable workloads, and the Biden administration blocked them from being able to strike, is fucking unforgivable imo. Obviously we can't say for sure what caused the derailment, but at this point it certainly seems plausible that, for instance, staff fatigue might well have been an avoidable factor.
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
No, I wasn't accusing you of that, as I say above very definite form in America for covering things up. E2a if I wanted to call you a 'loon believe me I wouldn't beat about the bush. But you're not, so I'm not
Humberto
minor kerfuffles ensue
Generous.
finance.yahoo.com
Norfolk Southern is giving $25,000 to an Ohio town where it caused a life-or-death evacuation
On Feb. 6, an apocalyptic plume of gas rose over the village of East Palestine, Ohio, blotting out the sky. Norfolk Southern, the US railway company responsible for the toxic spew of vinyl chloride, has now offered a $25,000 donation to assist the area’s nearly 5,000 residents who were ordered...
hitmouse
so defeated, thinks it's funny
Fucking hell, it has not been a good few weeks for the American rail industry:
www.houstonpublicmedia.org
www.whsv.com
Can't help thinking that maybe telling train drivers that they can't call in sick was perhaps a bad idea?
Houston-area crash between truck, Union Pacific train kills driver, derails 20-plus rail cars | Houston Public Media
The cargo on the train included some hazardous materials, prompting Union Pacific to monitor air quality at the site of the crash, according to the Splendora Police Department.
www.houstonpublicmedia.org
Officials clean up train derailment in Enoree
Stay with FOX Carolina as we work to learn more.
Can't help thinking that maybe telling train drivers that they can't call in sick was perhaps a bad idea?
hitmouse
so defeated, thinks it's funny
Unicorn Riot coverage:
unicornriot.ninja
'Like the Doors of Hell Were Open': East Palestine Train Disaster Casts Toxic Cloud Over Future of OH/PA Region - UNICORN RIOT
Vinyl Chloride & Byproducts like Phosgene Risk Damaging Wide Area
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hitmouse
so defeated, thinks it's funny
Really recommend that Unicorn Riot article for serious indepth coverage of what happened. Also links to this press release from Railroad Workers United:
Press Release: Fiery Ohio Train Wreck the Result of "PSR"
Press Release from Railroad Workers United View this Email as a Webpage Press Release Date: Tuesday, February 7th, 2023 For Immediate Release For More Information, Please Contact: WASHINGTON, DC
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two sheds
Least noticed poster 2007
One of the comments on that reddit thread said that the wooden sleepers had rotted away leaving the tracks lying on the ground. Another noted that the compensation for railway accidents had been limited in the US, making it profitable for the companies to just not bother with maintenance.
krtek a houby
Merry Xmas!
Where is the state of emergency? Interesting short article here
Ohio is facing a chemical disaster. Biden must declare a state of emergency | Steven Donziger
Norfolk’s leadership bailed out of a townhall meeting this week, blaming security risks, and has refused to face residents to answer questions.
That’s certainly cowardice. But it is also a function of the fact that industry does not respect the power of government to regulate it. Government is supposed to protect us from the excesses of industry; instead it often acts like its partner.
If the consequences of not attending had included a sufficient threat to his bottom line, Norfolk Southern CEO Alan Shaw – who earns a reported $4.5m a year – probably would have been at the town hall. And if the government had been doing its job in the first place, there is a good chance this accident would not have happened. During the Trump administration, Norfolk successfully lobbied to repeal a safety rule requiring new electronic brakes. The train was also dangerously long – with only two crew members, and a trainee, supervising its 1.7-mile length.
Ohio is facing a chemical disaster. Biden must declare a state of emergency | Steven Donziger
Norfolk’s leadership bailed out of a townhall meeting this week, blaming security risks, and has refused to face residents to answer questions.
That’s certainly cowardice. But it is also a function of the fact that industry does not respect the power of government to regulate it. Government is supposed to protect us from the excesses of industry; instead it often acts like its partner.
If the consequences of not attending had included a sufficient threat to his bottom line, Norfolk Southern CEO Alan Shaw – who earns a reported $4.5m a year – probably would have been at the town hall. And if the government had been doing its job in the first place, there is a good chance this accident would not have happened. During the Trump administration, Norfolk successfully lobbied to repeal a safety rule requiring new electronic brakes. The train was also dangerously long – with only two crew members, and a trainee, supervising its 1.7-mile length.
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NoXion
Craicy the Squirrel
Sounds like a bunch of excuses to be honest. Call me a fusspot, but I don't think that any rail line that's actually being used for transporting anything should look like that.
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Nylock
I hate 'these days'...
The other alternative is to temp close it, reinforce the trackbed, replace the old sleepers with new concrete ones and re-lay the track. Might take a while depending on how much needs replacement but normal service would resume with the added bonus of the freight train being able to go faster than walking pace...
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