Hamas/Israel conflict: news and discussion

[nino_savatte]

It’s blood libel to call a democratically elected baby killer a baby killer.

"The modern blood libel", she says.

 

[teqniq]

Archived editorial from Haaretz on the ICC warrants:

Starvation, Murder, Persecution: ICC Warrants Are an Unprecedented Moral Nadir for Israel

Interestingly Gramsci in the piece wrt to Israel having the facility to pursue it's own internal investigation into war crimes and crimes against humanity as is being suggested by UKLI
they regard this as a non-option:

 

[CNT36]

The majority of Israeli surveillance flights are by British military, Al Jaz reports. Utterly complicit, never mind the arms sales

Got a link?

 

[tony.c]

Got a link?

There have been flight plans of RAF surveillance flights from Cyprus over Gaza shown on the internet.
This article while saying they are to locate hostages also claims the footage could be used in the ICC.

RAF’s Gaza photos could be used against Israel in war crimes court

RAF spy planes have been flying over Gaza since December 2023 to help locate Israeli hostages taken by Hamas

www.independent.co.uk

 

[teqniq]

Got a link?

Declassified did a vid on the flights:

 

[Gramsci]

Got a link?

Revealed: UK military has flown 200 spy missions over Gaza in support of Israel

British spy planes have recorded up to 1,000 hours of footage over Gaza, including from the day Israel assassinated three UK aid workers.

www.declassifieduk.org

 

[Gramsci]

Archived editorial from Haaretz on the ICC warrants:

Starvation, Murder, Persecution: ICC Warrants Are an Unprecedented Moral Nadir for Israel

Interestingly Gramsci in the piece wrt to Israel having the facility to pursue it's own internal investigation into war crimes and crimes against humanity as is being suggested by UKLI
they regard this as a non-option:

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I am wondering if Israel state and it's general public aren't acting in rational way.

After Hamas attack they had a lot of international support and condemnation of Hamas.

One year on and they are losing international support except from US and countries like mine.

South Africa case is extremely important symbolically.

I can see why activists pursuing the legal arguments plus making Israel an international pariah with world public opinion are correct.

Here is quote from article,

Unfortunately, both the government and public opinion, with the support of most of the media, are refusing to listen. Instead, they are all hoping that Trump will enable Israel to continue, if not intensify, the actions that the International Criminal Court defines as crimes against humanity.

So forget about trying to get Israeli public onside. That's pointless.

Go for using international law strategically and isolate Israel as a pariah state. In world public opinion. Even if our western leaders won't.

Question is whether this will happen quick enough to save Palestinians being basically wiped off the map of Palestine

 

[Gramsci]

Western states could treat Israel like Putin's Russia is being treated.

Just to make it clear I'm not saying Israel should be picked on differently from other states occupying other people's land.

 

[teqniq]

Meanwhile there are two ceasefire deals in the offing. Very predictably it is said that Netanyahu is stalling for time on the Gaza one:

Arab mediators: Netanyahu stalling, wrongly thinks Trump will deliver better Gaza deal

but there is also a potential ceasefire deal with Hezbollah:

Netanyahu meeting on Lebanon ceasefire as Israel said poised to greenlight deal

Consultation said focus on how to sell agreement to Israeli public; US envoy reportedly warned that if there is no truce now, Israel and Hezbollah will have to wait for Trump

www.timesofisrael.com