existentialist
Tired and unemotional
It must be a FOTL thing. I'm surprised they don't capitalise it too.Why do they keep spelling 'Noam' 'Naom'?
Ukraine and the Russian invasion, 2022-24
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...so proper wingnut territory.
Silas Loom
Hated by both sides
Why do they keep spelling 'Noam' 'Naom'?
See also “Isreal”. Maybe it’s loonspud opsec.
Kevbad the Bad
Amiable Bowel Syndrome
Cid
Proper break this time
Freemen on the land.
Basically all of your guesses in above post with added fake out there law.
existentialist
Tired and unemotional
All of the above
It was a vague swipe at the whole Freeman On The Land (FOTL, see?) thing, whereby there's a whole big deal about "given names" and "legal identities", which seemed to rather fit the direction the thread had begun to take...
The39thStep
Urban critical thinker
The testimonies of those that survived say that many of the more systematic massacres carried out during the Nazi occupation of what was Western Ukraine, Belarus and Lithuania involved locals joining the Police sections of the occupiers. They knew who the Jews were, they knew where they lived, they knew those who had communist sympathies. It was these that enthusiastically herded up their former neighbours to be locked in cattle sheds and burnt alive, to be lined up and shot and thrown in trenches or piled on top of each other, babies heads smashed against walls and children executed.
250,000 Ukrainian Auxiliary Police helping to round them up, Nazi German Sonderkommandos and Einsatzgruppen shot 1.5 million Jews to death in the Holocaust in Ukraine. 80,000 Ukrainians originally volunteered for the Ukrainian SS Division Galicia, though not all were accepted. Waffen-SS members had to swear allegiance to Adolf Hitler and the Nazi regime. This is the unit that Hunka volunteered and joined in 1943.
"Caption of Hunka's photograph that I found refers to him in this camp. Estimated 7,500 Jews, 5,000 Soviet prisoners of war & 2,500 Poles perished in concentration camps which were created there to build & serve SS training camp." I. Katchanovski
SS Galicia Division volunteers in SS training camp Heidelager in Nazi-occupied Poland ( below).
250,000 Ukrainian Auxiliary Police helping to round them up, Nazi German Sonderkommandos and Einsatzgruppen shot 1.5 million Jews to death in the Holocaust in Ukraine. 80,000 Ukrainians originally volunteered for the Ukrainian SS Division Galicia, though not all were accepted. Waffen-SS members had to swear allegiance to Adolf Hitler and the Nazi regime. This is the unit that Hunka volunteered and joined in 1943.
"Caption of Hunka's photograph that I found refers to him in this camp. Estimated 7,500 Jews, 5,000 Soviet prisoners of war & 2,500 Poles perished in concentration camps which were created there to build & serve SS training camp." I. Katchanovski
SS Galicia Division volunteers in SS training camp Heidelager in Nazi-occupied Poland ( below).
nogojones
spelling is overrated
Not quite. Some of the UPA and other Ukrainian partisans were fighting both the Nazi's and the USSR
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
in many places the nazis had access to census data - or organised censuses themselves - using ibm machines to do the analysis and help them root out jews IBM and the Holocaust — why wasn’t this on my radar? | Glencora Borradaile the book is well worth reading
StoneRoad
heckling from the back!
An interesting analysis from ISW - rather long, well worth reading as it makes some good points and debunks some of the shite ^^^^
www.understandingwar.org
Institute for the Study of War
Russian President Vladimir Putin didn’t invade Ukraine in 2022 because he feared NATO. He invaded because he believed that NATO was weak, that his efforts to regain control of Ukraine by other means had failed, and that installing a pro-Russian g
Chz
Stark Raving Sane
They're lucky in that Slovakia has pretty much already donated everything that they possibly can, so losing their support doesn't amount to much.
The US is obviously a lot more worrying, but there is still a lot of stuff hiding out in warehouses that's basically zero-cost to donate once it's been shipped. The US Army has made a killing getting rid of things they were going to have to pay to dispose of properly - it's cheaper to let the Ukrainians blow it all up.
cupid_stunt
Chief seagull hater & farmerbarleymow's nemesis.
I guess being such an expert in maritime law, old Tobyjug must have been one of the original 'Freemen on the Land' loons.
teuchter
je suis teuchter
Well, this settles the PC vs Mac debate.
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
you do come out with a load of auld bollocks, more than can be explained simply by ignorant stupidity
UnderOpenSky
baseline neural therapy
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
That's a really superficial post because it fails to take nato's consensus approach into account https://www.nato.int/wearenato/how-are-decisions-taken-nato.html so Slovakia taking a new line on Ukraine could be more important than you suggest
Chz
Stark Raving Sane
I'm not so terribly worried about that because the Americans (and to some degree the Brits, the French) have proven that they'll happily bribe anyone who stands in the way of what they want in NATO. Slovakia just donated all of their MiGs to Ukraine and are waiting on F-16s to replace them. Production delays have pushed them well back into 2024, but they could easily get some tomorrow if the Americans are willing to let one squadron go under-strength for a year. It might even be what the real plan of the new government was in the first place, choosing to ride a wave of populist nonsense to get there. Turkey constantly throws a tantrum to get new toys.
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
Chz
Stark Raving Sane
Do you?
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
The39thStep
Urban critical thinker
And executing Jews and Poles at the same time so very busy
dilute micro
esse quam videri
Consensus approach to what?
Chz
Stark Raving Sane
Sigh
Let me translate that post for you:
"Would you care to contribute any meaningful content on the subject instead of smug remarks? Because if you do that, I'm going to respond in kind, good and bad."
You've contributed a video on how NATO makes decisions, by which I've said NATO is the Americans getting what they want because they bribe anyone who doesn't agree with that. Then you've offered up some nonsense about whether it's all about weapons for Ukraine, which isn't even something I said.
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
Decision-making like it says in the post
dilute micro
esse quam videri
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
It's essentially what you've said, in your post about a change of government in Slovakia not mattering much because they've sent all the weapons they might. For me your the yanks will bribe their way past any local difficulty is complacent. A new government in Slovakia less sympathetic to Ukraine could poke a stick in nato's spokes. maybe you've forgotten Turkey not taking bribes in 2003 and refusing use of their land to launch the planned northern invasion of Iraq, not everyone has tho.
Chz
Stark Raving Sane
Iraq wasn't a NATO policy. If France or Germany had shared a border in the area, they'd have refused too (pity the UK wouldn't have). It's totally irrelevant. Hungary is already far more pro-Russia than Slovakia and it's not made a lick of difference in NATO's policies. What exactly do you think it will change?
dilute micro
esse quam videri
Any country can act outside of NATO. You're really only a member when it suits.
Fair pointWhy do they keep spelling 'Noam' 'Naom'?
Raheem
Well-Known Member
Because Naom can say anything you like.Why do they keep spelling 'Noam' 'Naom'?
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