The 2023 Russian Coup.

[teqniq]

Though certainly no absence of paper money.

Or actual gold. Here I refer to the gold that was shipped out of Sudan.

Sudan: Russia's Wagner Group and the grab for power and gold – DW – 04/26/2023

Russian paramilitary group Wagner operates a gold processing plant in Sudan and has been accused of involvement in the country's recent conflict.

www.dw.com

 

[nogojones]

Delivering the vaccine via ground-to-air missile that's what I call a radical new approach to an innoculation program. They really don't give a shit about credibility do they?

It's from Russia Today. Their audience is non domestic and a bit credulous to say the least.

 

[Cid]

Yep, I'm sure the Greenwalds and Rogans of the world will lap it up.

And presidential candidate RFK jr. Fucking world.

 

[nogojones]

Yep, I'm sure the Greenwalds and Rogans of the world will lap it up.

And presidential candidate RFK jr. Fucking world.

For sure. The covid deniers and apologists for Putin will lap it up and the Venn diagram of those two groups is pretty much just one big circle.

 

[Idris2002]

Ok. But of all people wasn’t he a man who believed in the power of peoples will to effect change, he didn’t think that things were static, knew people could imagine different ways of doing things & then therefore change their circumstances. But Anyway.

I get the argument that many Russians may feel that the current regime is a better bet than whatever chaos might happen when it implodes.

On that subject - the Irish Times has this story by Lara Marlowe. TLDR: someone still believes in a vaguely leftist overthrow of VP. But he's based in Kyiv and heads off a group of . . . well, their numbers are not indicated.

Russian opponent of Putin: ‘We are getting weapons from the Ukrainians ... rifles, machine guns, rocket-propelled grenades’

Ilya Ponomarev, a Kyiv-based Russian opposition figure, advocates the violent overthrow of Vladimir Putin by Russian exiles in Ukraine

www.irishtimes.com

Is this the Stormy Petrel of revolution? Or just someone using his imagination?

 

[moochedit]

That reminds me, what does Gorgeous George have to say?

Not watched this but help yourself...

 

[LDC]

Not watched this but help yourself...

Oh me... me... I know sir... I know!

Is the answer Ukrainian Nazis?

 

[moochedit]

Oh me... me... I know sir... I know!

Is the answer Ukrainian Nazis?

Probably

 

[Rob Ray]

Why do none of these people own a comb?

 

[Bingoman]

So what do the Wagner group do now?

 

[existentialist]

Think you're quite wrong about bimble there, just saying.

RD2003 will stop at nothing not to be wrong.

Which is strange, because he appears to stop at nothing in order to BE wrong, too.

 

[existentialist]

Doesn't surprise me tbh.

Could you BE any more of a smug cunt?

 

[Pickman's model]

Could you BE any more of a smug cunt?

He's only on a smug rating of 16 milliwogans at the moment, barely flexing his muscles

 

[Pickman's model]

RD2003 will stop at nothing not to be wrong.

Which is strange, because he appears to stop at nothing in order to BE wrong, too.

If only he'd just stop

 

[Pickman's model]

For sure. The covid deniers and apologists for Putin will lap it up and the Venn diagram of those two groups is pretty much just one big circle.

Not really. Anyone who observed the c19 denier demos will have noticed over time a growing bame presence, you don't have to be white and rw to be that sort of 'loon. Altho it's obviously convenient to think so

 

[nogojones]

Not really. Anyone who observed the c19 denier demos will have noticed over time a growing bame presence, you don't have to be white and rw to be that sort of 'loon. Altho it's obviously convenient to think so

Anecdotal, I know, but I personally know more covid deniers than is healthy and I don't think any of them would identify as RW and most of them ain't white. However every last one of them also believe Russian state narratives when it comes to geopolitics.

 

[The39thStep]

So what do the Wagner group do now?

What would you do if you were in Wagner?

 

[Santino]

What would you do if you were in Wagner?

Probably sing something in German about a fucking ring or something.

 

[RD2003]

In 2019, Yevgeny Prigozhin was briefly reported to have died after an An-72 transport plane crashed in the Democratic Republic of the Congo. The embassy said two Russians had been onboard the plane, which was also carrying members of the DRC’s presidential staff.

The Wagner chief reappeared three days later, however, reports of his death having been greatly exaggerated.

That has meant alternative theories abound, fuelled by that previous reappearance, following yesterday’s announcement of his death, as this analysis explains:


Is Yevgeny Prigozhin really dead? Not everyone is convinced

 

[Wilf]

Oh me... me... I know sir... I know!

Is the answer Ukrainian Nazis?

I got as far as the bloke saying 'we don't know what happened'.

 

[dilute micro]

So what do the Wagner group do now?

 

[bimble]

surface to air missile they're saying now, that's not what you'd do if you cared about plausible deniability is it.

 

[pbsmooth]

So what do the Wagner group do now?

whatever Putin tells them to do.

 

[Pickman's model]

surface to air missile they're saying now, that's not what you'd do if you cared about plausible deniability is it.

they?

 

[The39thStep]

On that subject - the Irish Times has this story by Lara Marlowe. TLDR: someone still believes in a vaguely leftist overthrow of VP. But he's based in Kyiv and heads off a group of . . . well, their numbers are not indicated.

Russian opponent of Putin: ‘We are getting weapons from the Ukrainians ... rifles, machine guns, rocket-propelled grenades’

Ilya Ponomarev, a Kyiv-based Russian opposition figure, advocates the violent overthrow of Vladimir Putin by Russian exiles in Ukraine

www.irishtimes.com

Is this the Stormy Petrel of revolution? Or just someone using his imagination?

Ponomarev has some financial backing but no numbers and is a desperate self publicist . The last photo of the Free Russian Legion I saw had two Russian ultranationalists ie ex fash and two Ukrainian fash.

 

[Idris2002]

Ponomarev has some financial backing but no numbers and is a desperate self publicist . The last photo of the Free Russian Legion I saw had two Russian ultranationalists ie ex fash and two Ukrainian fash.

 

[Monkeygrinder's Organ]

surface to air missile they're saying now, that's not what you'd do if you cared about plausible deniability is it.

If only they'd known the pilot had just had a vaccine related heart attack they could have saved themselves the warhead.

 

[A380]

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That’s going to be a winner in conspiraloon bingo in years to come…

 

[tim]

I would imagine that Russian special agents would have confirmed he was on the plane before exterminating him and everyone else on board. Else they end up looking ridiculous.

Pesonally, I find it inconceivable that Russian special agents could do anything that would make them look ridiculous.

 

[bimble]

they?

Some nameless Americans:

Pentagon: No info to support missile strike theory for Prigozhin crash

The U.S. Department of Defense on Thursday said there was currently no information to suggest that a surface-to-air missile took down the plane presumed to be carrying Russian mercenary leader Yevgeny Prigozhin.

www.reuters.com