Ukraine and the Russian invasion, Feb 2022 - tangentially related crap

[Elpenor]

I did not expect to see this graffiti in Dover, in an abandoned part of the defences on the heights above the port

 

[Bahnhof Strasse]

Russia's shot down it's own copy of the US's X-47B that went awry, to try and stop it falling in the Ukrainian hands, they have the wreckage anyway, it seems.

 

[yield]

Several EU countries now question welcoming conditions for Ukrainian refugees
le monde. October 13, 2024

Norway, Hungary and the Czech Republic have imposed restrictions on the entry or social rights of those fleeing the Russian invasion. They have raised concerns about the burden of supporting refugees and the presence of men of military age.

"men of military age" one for danny la rouge far right tropes thread

 

[TopCat]

I suspect Ursula will make some difficult decisions soon. Better to forcibly deport the Ukrainian men than have German troops getting involved.

 

[yield]

US expected to pay up to $20bn into G7 loan for Ukraine
FT. 18/10/24 https://archive.ph/DGeG5

The US is willing to provide up to $20bn as part of a G7 loan to Ukraine that will be repaid with profits generated by Russia’s frozen assets, according to three people familiar with the matter.

The talks over the loan are accelerating as western officials want to provide funding to Kyiv before the end of the year, conscious that if Donald Trump wins the US election in November, Washington’s aid to Ukraine could be cut off.

G7 countries have been locked in months-long negotiations over the structure of the $50bn loan agreed in June, with Washington’s contribution until recently expected to be smaller than initially planned after the EU failed to guarantee that the Russian assets would remain immobilised for at least three years.

But US officials on Friday indicated to their G7 counterparts that Washington would provide the full original amount, about $20bn. This would be possible, they said, even if the EU failed to convince Hungary’s premier Viktor Orbán to drop his veto on extending EU sanctions — a condition demanded by Washington.

 

[TopCat]

US expected to pay up to $20bn into G7 loan for Ukraine
FT. 18/10/24 https://archive.ph/DGeG5

So if an end to the war is agreed at some point and Russias assets returned as part of the deal, who pays the loans?

 

[WouldBe]

So if an end to the war is agreed at some point and Russias assets returned as part of the deal, who pays the loans?

Russia along with reparations.

 

[_Russ_]

Russia along with reparations.

Says who?

 

[TopCat]

Says who?

Well it’s been said by lots. No path to achieving this goal has been agreed yet though.

 

[_Russ_]

Well it’s been said by lots. No path to achieving this goal has been agreed yet though.

Not gonna happen, far too many snouts in the trough for anywhere near all that wonga end up in Ukraine's coffers

 

[TopCat]

It presumes Ukraine win the war. If they lose, then who pays the loans back?

 

[Chz]

Not gonna happen, far too many snouts in the trough for anywhere near all that wonga end up in Ukraine's coffers

There's no way Russia, if it even agreed to such a thing, would pay it out in cash. It would be favourable trade rates and discounts. Russia can't afford to pay for the damage they've done to Ukraine, and frankly the West wants to fund it themselves so they can snap it all up in return.

 

[Bahnhof Strasse]

Andrey Lugovoy, one of the 2 KGB killers charged with the lethal poisoning of an ex-KGB officer Alexander Litvinenko in London by radioactive Polonium-210, is sick with an advanced stage of prostate cancer.

The sickness may be linked to his handling of a highly poisonous radioactive substance in 2006, when an ex-KGB whistleblower Litvinenko was poisoned by tea in a London hotel.

The second killer, Dmitry Kovtun, died in June 2022, supposedly from COVID, at the age of 56.





Windsor Davies meme

 

[Chz]

Russian court fines Google $2 decillion

Don't hold your breath Putin

www.theregister.com

Maybe since their sovereign wealth fund is running dry - Russia Can’t Keep Spending Like This for Long - they can get Google to fund their war.

 

[yield]

Ukraine's bid to add Russia to FATF's 'black list' fails again, rejected by China, India and others
October 25, 2024

PARIS, Oct 25 (Reuters) - Ukraine's bid to have Russia added to an international list of countries with weak money laundering compliance has failed again after the move was rejected by countries including China, India, Saudi Arabia and South Africa, three sources with knowledge of the matter told Reuters.

Two sources with knowledge of the discussions that were held this week at international financial crime watchdog FATF in Paris said Brazil was also among the group that rejected the proposal. One source said Ukraine's proposal to shut out Russia had been postponed to gather more evidence.

The FATF, whose members states include Britain, France, Germany, the United States and other major economies, declined to comment, saying it was due to update what it calls its "grey" and "blacklisted" nations after the end of its plenary discussions on Friday.

The Ukrainian government has argued that Russia, which faces various sanctions from Western governments in response to its 2022 invasion of Ukraine, poses a threat to the international financial system, citing its close links to other "blacklist" countries Iran and North Korea among other arguments.

The FATF last year suspended Russia's membership, saying Moscow's war in Ukraine violated the organisation's principles.

 

[The39thStep]

The welcome return of Putin health rumours ;

 

[Ax^]

Oct 18..

 

[Artaxerxes]

Russian anti-war teenager faces five years in jail after failed appeal

Arseny Turbin, one of Russia's youngest political prisoners, has lost an appeal to overturn his five-year jail sentence.

www.bbc.com

Poor kid

 

[The39thStep]

I see Caolan Robertson one time aide to Tommy Robinson ran out of TR stories to flog to the media and is now on the reporting from Ukraine gravy train. Ukraine doesn't deserve this.