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Ukraine and the Russian invasion, 2022-24

Far be it from me to defend the levels of corruption in the establishment here. But this is the kind of hyperbole bollocks that gets the rest of your arguments ignored as equally bollocks, and probably a bit UK centric .
You have got the huge money laundering by people and corporations we're not allowed to know the name of that is the London expensive property market. That surely takes us up a few places in the rankings.
 
Interesting article which provides an anecdotal insight into Ukrainian civic society in the midst of the war . Recalls how useful the Mass Observation stuff was decades ago .

 
Far be it from me to defend the levels of corruption in the establishment here. But this is the kind of hyperbole bollocks that gets the rest of your arguments ignored as equally bollocks, and probably a bit UK centric .
I'll just leave this here:

 
It’s appallingly easy to set up a plc holding company in the UK, with some random sap named as the director, and there’s no ability to look through that corporate structure. So if you do want to create a big corrupt network of corporate activity, the UK is definitely one of the best places to do it.
 
I'll just leave this here:

And that's from 2016 - must be much more money involved now. I read some international report saying there's so much that the London property market is measurably overvalued because of it. LLPs isn't it - Limited Liability Partnerships - Private Eye used to bang on about them a lot because owners don't have to declare themselves.
 
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It’s appallingly easy to set up a plc holding company in the UK, with some random sap named as the director, and there’s no ability to look through that corporate structure. So if you do want to create a big corrupt network of corporate activity, the UK is definitely one of the best places to do it.

Perhaps you could start a thread. If only there were a forum on here for UK, politics, current affairs and news…
 
Perhaps you could start a thread. If only there were a forum on here for UK, politics, current affairs and news…
Yes fair enough, goes for me too. Finished now anyway but I think it's tangentially relevant for a comparison if we're talking about corruption in Ukraine and Russia. As you say, though ...
 
Perhaps you could start a thread. If only there were a forum on here for UK, politics, current affairs and news…
My intention was not to derail the thread but rather to point out that you appear to be somewhat misinformed. There are already a couple of threads in UK Politics, Establishment networking and sleaze and Russian oligarchs, but someone could easily start another.
 
My intention was not to derail the thread but rather to point out that you appear to be somewhat misinformed. There are already a couple of threads in UK Politics, Establishment networking and sleaze and Russian oligarchs, but someone could easily start another.

You are right. I was misinformed. It is now obvious to all that the UK is the most corrupt country in the world bar none. I bow to you superior knowledge and surgical levels of economic, historic and political analysis.

Any chance we could go back to discussing the war in Ukrain now?
 
Far be it from me to defend the levels of corruption in the establishment here. But this is the kind of hyperbole bollocks that gets the rest of your arguments ignored as equally bollocks, and probably a bit UK centric .


The banker to the mob has to be seen to be honest so we could be worse we just tacitly profit from crime rather than doing anything big - we have a reputation for asking no questions and telling no lies
 
You are right. I was misinformed. It is now obvious to all that the UK is the most corrupt country in the world bar none. I bow to you superior knowledge and surgical levels of economic, historic and political analysis.

Any chance we could go back to discussing the war in Ukrain now?
Filing issue?
 
This is interesting. It's not just microelectronics the Russia is short of. Ball bearings and optics but mainly the former.

There was talk of ball bearing shortages quite early on - presumably a solution has not been found.
 
. On some dimensions, the UK is not at all corrupt. For example, good luck trying to pay a bribe to law enforcement and government officials to speed up your paperwork. .
Richard Desmond managed to achieve that one quite well with his little housing development. Plus a few foreign billionaires managed to expedite their immigration paperwork in New Labour days. It’s not something the little people can do so well though.
 
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As a coincidence, another Member of Spies For Peace has recently revealed himself

Genuinely worked how? As far as I recall we were still all fearing nuclear apocalypse till the wall came down.
 
Not when those people have the words PRESS written in large letters across their chest and back.
If you've read dispatches by Michael Herr you'll know it's not really the safest place for a journo, wars. And as we've seen in Iraq more recently the Americans target journalists, sure you remember them taking out a place they knew al-jazeera journalists were. It's a lot of faith to put in lettering on a flak jacket that it'll give snipers pause to think. Especially when they're from an army which hasn't entirely been known for its' careful avoidance of civilian casualties
 
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