Like stalingrad and we know how that ended
Is that directed at what I said? I'm only going by their past form. They'll try to take it with massive loss of life (currently the case) and when that doesn't work, they'll turn it to rubble and plant their flag on the remnants. I didn't think that observation was particularly controversial tbh...
No ,not at all . It was just a general comment about how aspects of the war are reported / commented on .
Indeed, nobody knows the truth about exact numbers of casualties, which is why it's far safer to stick to known facts than rhetoric and doom mongering.
Where’s all this rhetoric and doom mongering ?
Yeah, but which year?
I assumed that was partly what you were referring to with your comments about how aspects of the war are reported on.
Most of the ‘official’ sources announcements (on both sides) is for public consumption and propaganda so thats interesting about senior Ukrainian officials being told to button it . Was this an internal discussion or was there influence from the Americans ?
This is one example that I noticed, after a few weeks of rumours coming from officials in Ukraine that Russia was planning a fresh offensive on Kyiv.
Sometimes Ukraine plays up it’s own losses to gain more sympathy/support from the west, it did when Severodonetsk was taken earlier in the war, claiming they were losing 1000 per day trying to hold out against constant artillery bombardment. The result of that crisis was the supply by western allies of the means to accurately hit ammo depots behind enemy lines, which led to shell starvation for the Russians and a slowing of the advance. They’re after more help here now since Russia has reorganised logistics well enough to resume the same tactics.
Chinese peace plan for Ukraine greeted cautiously by the west
China’s senior diplomat Wang Yi speaks of need to uphold principle of territorial integrity but also of respecting Russia’s ‘legitimate security interests’www.theguardian.com
The Polish government has been one of the most pro-war members of NATO for the past year. Along with the Baltic states they're the ones with the most to be concerned about a Russian take over of Ukraine. They don't want the border of a expansionist imperialist Russia getting any closer. They certainly don't want Russian troops on their border. Obviously there's lots of history between Poland and Russia. They're the country with up to 3.5 million Ukrainian refugees, acting as a staging post for the flow of Western weapons going into Ukraine. What Morawiecki is saying here is 'we're ready to get more involved with the war if the US is'. That's been its consistent position throughout the war. It doesn't mean that the US/overall NATO position is changing.
At the same time as this...Chinese peace plan for Ukraine greeted cautiously by the west
China’s senior diplomat Wang Yi speaks of need to uphold principle of territorial integrity but also of respecting Russia’s ‘legitimate security interests’
www.opendemocracy.net
It's about sunk cost, isn't it? Bakhmut is important because of the amount of men and equipment thrown at it, therefore more men and equipment is needs to be thrown at it.
You'll have something of a hangover before the night is out
Deliberately trying to get banned judging by behaviour on other threads.
