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Ukraine and the Russian invasion, 2022-24
- Thread starter kebabking
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It would be interesting to see how 'pro-Ukraine' and 'anti-Putin' the western bourgeosie would be if the Ukrainian people ever got fed up with it's ruling class and revolted. All the arms sent to the Ukrainian state would also be used against the Ukrainian working class, and hey, no doubt some extra.
Fair enough. No one denied that this was the case.Perhaps because you're only reading stuff that confirms your bias?
Here you go:
Corruption in the Russian Armed Forces
Corruption is endemic in Russia and is pervasive within its defence industrial sector and armed forces. Evidence from Ukraine suggests that it is costing Russian lives.rusi.org
Russian corruption: A factor in the war in Ukraine?
Historically, there has been a steady stream of high-level Russian military officials who have been called up on corruption charges.www.army-technology.com
Russian military’s corruption quagmire
Bogged down in Ukraine, Russian forces battle the consequences of systemic sleaze.www.politico.eu
‘The army has nothing’: new Russian conscripts bemoan lack of supplies
Relatives purchase armour and clothing for soldiers on frontline due to theft, corruption and poor logisticswww.theguardian.com
The Unholy Trinity of Corruption, Low Morale, and Military Failure
There is an extreme difference in the morale of the Ukrainian troops as compared to the Russian troops, one that is worth noting and is best understood in a historicalwww.lawfareblog.com
As War Hits the Homefront, Russia’s Defeat Inches Closer
Battlefield losses, military corruption, and a disastrous mobilization drive have broken the social contract.foreignpolicy.com
Rank and File Corrupted: Uncertain Attribution and Corruption in Russia’s Military Cyber Units | The Post-Soviet Post | CSIS
Corruption has riddled the ranks of the Russian military for decades, persisting in operations, maintenance and personnel.www.csis.org
Ukrainian victory shatters Russia’s reputation as a military superpower
The stunning success of Ukraine’s counteroffensive in the Kharkiv region has exposed the rotten reality behind Russia’s military superpower reputation and convinced many that a decisive Ukrainian victory is now possible.www.atlanticcouncil.org
Chinese academic: Ukraine war shows a corrupt Russia inside and out
Outdated military equipment, expired rations and the plundering of household appliances - these are the realities of Russia's military fighting in Ukraine. Meanwhile, those at home face a leadership characterised by corruption and impunity. Economics professor Zhu Ying highlights the incidents...www.thinkchina.sg
Russia - Government Defence Integrity Index
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Spymaster
Plastic Paddy
Yossarian
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More on the dodgy Ukraine contracts here - if he'd been working in Russia, I think the journalist who helped expose the war profiteering might have had some unfortunate accident before now.
Yurii Nikolov, an investigative journalist and founder of the Nashi Groshi (Our Money) investigative website, who broke the defense procurement story for Ukrainian news website ZN.UA, wants to see action rather than more promises from politicians.
“Now Ukraine has a unique opportunity to show we are not like Russia, where they launder money on everything. If some guy wants to steal millions of euros from us during the war, when our economy is 60 percent dependent on EU aid, we have to stop him,” Nikolov told POLITICO.
...since the end of summer, Nikolov’s sources in the government started alerting him to dubious defense procurement hidden from the public. Then, in December, his sources in the armed forces sent him the contract on food and catering services worth 13 billion hryvnias that lies at the heart of the current uproar. The defense ministry signed the deal with a firm affiliated with former defense officials.
Yurii Nikolov, an investigative journalist and founder of the Nashi Groshi (Our Money) investigative website, who broke the defense procurement story for Ukrainian news website ZN.UA, wants to see action rather than more promises from politicians.
“Now Ukraine has a unique opportunity to show we are not like Russia, where they launder money on everything. If some guy wants to steal millions of euros from us during the war, when our economy is 60 percent dependent on EU aid, we have to stop him,” Nikolov told POLITICO.
...since the end of summer, Nikolov’s sources in the government started alerting him to dubious defense procurement hidden from the public. Then, in December, his sources in the armed forces sent him the contract on food and catering services worth 13 billion hryvnias that lies at the heart of the current uproar. The defense ministry signed the deal with a firm affiliated with former defense officials.
nogojones
spelling is overrated
Well that's one of those three links totally debunked
nogojones
spelling is overrated
No. He's totally on point. But since St Tony Benn died, him, Mother Theresa and myself just don't get the chance to get together and prop it up like we used to.
two sheds
Least noticed poster 2007
well if you must quote jackbooted media lackeys of the bourgeosiePerhaps because you're only reading stuff that confirms your bias?
Here you go:
Corruption in the Russian Armed Forces
Corruption is endemic in Russia and is pervasive within its defence industrial sector and armed forces. Evidence from Ukraine suggests that it is costing Russian lives.Russian corruption: A factor in the war in Ukraine?
Historically, there has been a steady stream of high-level Russian military officials who have been called up on corruption charges.Russian military’s corruption quagmire
Bogged down in Ukraine, Russian forces battle the consequences of systemic sleaze.‘The army has nothing’: new Russian conscripts bemoan lack of supplies
Relatives purchase armour and clothing for soldiers on frontline due to theft, corruption and poor logisticsThe Unholy Trinity of Corruption, Low Morale, and Military Failure
There is an extreme difference in the morale of the Ukrainian troops as compared to the Russian troops, one that is worth noting and is best understood in a historicalAs War Hits the Homefront, Russia’s Defeat Inches Closer
Battlefield losses, military corruption, and a disastrous mobilization drive have broken the social contract.Rank and File Corrupted: Uncertain Attribution and Corruption in Russia’s Military Cyber Units | The Post-Soviet Post | CSIS
Corruption has riddled the ranks of the Russian military for decades, persisting in operations, maintenance and personnel.Ukrainian victory shatters Russia’s reputation as a military superpower
The stunning success of Ukraine’s counteroffensive in the Kharkiv region has exposed the rotten reality behind Russia’s military superpower reputation and convinced many that a decisive Ukrainian victory is now possible.Chinese academic: Ukraine war shows a corrupt Russia inside and out
Outdated military equipment, expired rations and the plundering of household appliances - these are the realities of Russia's military fighting in Ukraine. Meanwhile, those at home face a leadership characterised by corruption and impunity. Economics professor Zhu Ying highlights the incidents...Russia - Government Defence Integrity Index
nogojones
spelling is overrated
Oh, come on. Who hasn't pinched the odd bit of scrap from workOnly minor pilfering from work in the workers paradise of Putin's Russia. Like eight ton warship propellers...
The Captain of a Russian Destroyer Allegedly Stole His Own Propellers
That's some seriously expensive scrap.www.popularmechanics.com
NoXion
Craicy the Squirrel
Also implies that Russia has become significantly less corrupt in the meantime, which seems unlikely.
TopCat
Putin fanboy
That lot will help cure my insomnia.Perhaps because you're only reading stuff that confirms your bias?
Here you go:
Corruption in the Russian Armed Forces
Corruption is endemic in Russia and is pervasive within its defence industrial sector and armed forces. Evidence from Ukraine suggests that it is costing Russian lives.Russian corruption: A factor in the war in Ukraine?
Historically, there has been a steady stream of high-level Russian military officials who have been called up on corruption charges.Russian military’s corruption quagmire
Bogged down in Ukraine, Russian forces battle the consequences of systemic sleaze.‘The army has nothing’: new Russian conscripts bemoan lack of supplies
Relatives purchase armour and clothing for soldiers on frontline due to theft, corruption and poor logisticsThe Unholy Trinity of Corruption, Low Morale, and Military Failure
There is an extreme difference in the morale of the Ukrainian troops as compared to the Russian troops, one that is worth noting and is best understood in a historicalAs War Hits the Homefront, Russia’s Defeat Inches Closer
Battlefield losses, military corruption, and a disastrous mobilization drive have broken the social contract.Rank and File Corrupted: Uncertain Attribution and Corruption in Russia’s Military Cyber Units | The Post-Soviet Post | CSIS
Corruption has riddled the ranks of the Russian military for decades, persisting in operations, maintenance and personnel.Ukrainian victory shatters Russia’s reputation as a military superpower
The stunning success of Ukraine’s counteroffensive in the Kharkiv region has exposed the rotten reality behind Russia’s military superpower reputation and convinced many that a decisive Ukrainian victory is now possible.Chinese academic: Ukraine war shows a corrupt Russia inside and out
Outdated military equipment, expired rations and the plundering of household appliances - these are the realities of Russia's military fighting in Ukraine. Meanwhile, those at home face a leadership characterised by corruption and impunity. Economics professor Zhu Ying highlights the incidents...Russia - Government Defence Integrity Index
TopCat
Putin fanboy
It came from posters here studiously ignoring the reports today of rampant Ukrainian corruption. Perhaps because they don’t want to undermine the war effort? Our boys and that?
If the best you can do is to stoop that low then I must be doing something right. How thoroughly pathetic. You're on ignore now and I've definitely got much better and more useful things to be doing than spending time on here with arseholes like you..
TopCat
Putin fanboy
Could you cut out the “what’s your point caller?” And the “asking for a friend?”
It just makes your point get lost in a shout of Arse!
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Raheem
Well-Known Member
All this is because someone's links didn't get enough likes?
TopCat
Putin fanboy
No. Not after likes just wanted to know if any of the war baby types here cared about what they are supporting.
Not at all. You think too highly of yourself. And doing literally anything else is better than wasting time on this place at the moment frankly.
Cid
Proper break this time
I'm not sure it's so much 'studiously ignoring' as 'yes and?'-ing.
e2a: though to be fair to you tc, I see others did the whataboutery this time.
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
we're all war babies here
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
sulking and stomping round the house crying 'it's not fair'
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Cid
Proper break this time
But people aren't ignoring these things.
A380
How do I change this 'custom title' thing then?
Gosh, that’s me telt. and that’s before I reminded him of his horrible ablist/disablist bile.
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WouldBe
Dislicksick
You know where the exit is. No one is forcing you to stay.
The39thStep
Urban critical thinker
Well one of many , I'm sure
Spymaster
Plastic Paddy
Thing is dude, you've set yourself up on this thread as a pro-Russian commentator when to the vast majority of the rest of us, Russia are patently the massive cunts in all this. If someone else had posted about Ukrainian military corruption it would have got a fairer hearing but because it was you, it's just more of the same old bollocks.
Welcome to my world
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Raheem
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This. I think it's generally appreciated that Ukraine is prone to corruption, much more so than its neighbours, with one very obvious exception (edit: two, actually, I was forgetting).Thing is, dude, you've set yourself up on this thread as a pro-Russian commentator when to the vast majority of the rest of us, Russia are patently the massive cunts in all this. If someone else had posted about Ukrainian military corruption it would have got a fairer hearing but because it was you it's just more of the same old bollocks.
Welcome to my world
I think it may just be that it's a topic people have limited interest in engaging with when they perceive it as coming from a perspective of pro-Russia or artificial balance.
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