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Ukraine and the Russian invasion, 2022-24

yeh most likely but operating within editor's parameters of a successful german invasion...

I disagree - the Germans wouldn't just have a problem getting their invasion fleet across the channel, they would have had a continuing problem in keeping it supplied in fuel, ammunition, and food.

As ever, if you want to test something, turn it around: look at D-Day, look at the logistics effort it took to keep the Allied Armies going in Normandy. Germany never came within a thousand miles of being able to keep an army in field in the face of opposition by the Royal Navy.

Indeed you can see how Germany tried, and failed disasterously, to keep an army supplied by air - at Stalingrad.
 
did Stalin not kill around 60 million people during his rule so they owe themselves a bigger debt

That figure is a favourite of dishonest Black Book of Communism wankers who basically pin all the deaths in WWII on Stalin.

Make no mistake, Stalin was a authoritarian piece of shit who got a whole bunch of people killed, but we can at least avoid quoting rabid historical revisionists while criticising his legacy.
 
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That figure is a favourite of dishonest Black Book of Communism wankers who basically pin all the deaths in WWII on Stalin.

Make no mistake, Stalin was a authoritarian piece of shit who got a whole bunch of people killed, but we can at least avoid quoting rabid historical revisionists while criticising his legacy.
ok well that me told then ok so more around the 24million mark

A reconsideration of the extent of excess mortality resulting from the policy of forced industrialization in the USSR between 1929 and 1949 is presented. The study is based on recently published, adjusted serial data on natality in the 1930s and on data from the suppressed census of 1937. These data suggest that excess mortality due to Stalin's policies, including the forced labor camp system, may have involved a minimum of 12.6 million and a maximum of more than 23.5 million deaths. Various alternative estimates using different methods and data sources are compared.
 
Took you briefly off ignore. Jesus christ you're a fucking confused moron. We owe a debt? What people in the UK who weren't about then owe a debt to people who also weren't about then in a country that doesn't now also exist? Unless you mean the British State owes the Russian State some kind of 'free pass', which given your posting history on this topic it wouldn't surprise me you thick pseudo-Tankie loon.
I will make a point of introducing myself to you. See how many pejorative remarks you make then. :) In the meantime you can go on ignore.
 
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Do any of you gung ho lot believe the Russians are shelling the nuclear plant that is controlled by their troops? I mean propaganda is one thing but to assert this just undermines credibility.
 
Straight for once. Fuck off.
Well it just shows the paucity of much of your argument. you just can't accept that the obvious truth is it's the Ukrainians who are shelling the plant. Maybe because you are holding firm to the line but maybe you actually believe the Russians would shell a plant they occupy. If it's the latter then I worry about you. Be good to get a mailing list of people like you. Sell you fancy plates with Zelensky on for fifty quid a go.
 
Couldn't you find a meme to express yourself?

I don't tend to post memes on serious threads, nor do I normally 'like' them when others do, you moron.

But, you carry on with your moronic posts on this thread, and making a complete twat of yourself, I am sure you'll get a reaction from a few other morons, like spooky plank.
 
I think if the Germans had invaded the UK they would have succeeded in subjugating the populace. However they turned right and attacked the USSR and fucked up. We still owe a debt imo.

We do. And we are paying a small part of that debt by supporting with arms and money part of what was the USSR, Ukraine…
 
I disagree - the Germans wouldn't just have a problem getting their invasion fleet across the channel, they would have had a continuing problem in keeping it supplied in fuel, ammunition, and food.

As ever, if you want to test something, turn it around: look at D-Day, look at the logistics effort it took to keep the Allied Armies going in Normandy. Germany never came within a thousand miles of being able to keep an army in field in the face of opposition by the Royal Navy.

Indeed you can see how Germany tried, and failed disasterously, to keep an army supplied by air - at Stalingrad.

This^^ the only way sealion made sense would have to assumed the UK would have folded straight away. But that is to look at it from a 21st century perspective where the UK is basically Britain and the six counties. In the 4Os it was the Empire too. It’s doubtful the Royal Navy would have folded either given its size. So quite easy to imagine a German army stranded in the South East being cut up by half a million Indians armed with ‘Canadian’ equipment coming down from ships in Liverpool … I might write a book…
 
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