Ukraine and the Russian invasion, 2022-24

[Cid]

Anyone who protests against the war is being sent to the front too.

Fuck, I see Peskov has 'declined to deny' that now.

Ukraine war: Lavrov walks out of UN security council; Russians flee country to avoid military draft – as it happened

Queues seen at Russia’s land borders and flights sell out as Moscow begins drafting citizens into army to fight in Ukraine

www.theguardian.com

 

[Aladdin]

Fuck, I see Peskov has 'declined to deny' that now.

Ukraine war: Lavrov walks out of UN security council; Russians flee country to avoid military draft – as it happened

Queues seen at Russia’s land borders and flights sell out as Moscow begins drafting citizens into army to fight in Ukraine

www.theguardian.com

A friend in Helsinki says there are plenty making their way into Finland

 

[gosub]

Six miles of traffic at Russia's Georgia border amid mobilization—tracker

Mapping sites, videos posted on social media and a Telegram group for travelers suggest many Russians are trying to flee, but the traffic jam "is just gigantic."

www.newsweek.com

Blimey ! they're keen. Only got callup yesterday and already they are invading Georgia

 

[Cid]

A friend in Helsinki says there are plenty making their way into Finland

Yes, and yesterday there were reports of all flights booked, queues at other borders etc. These are all people who can afford to leave though... and good luck to them. But there are going to be many, many more, particularly in regions/republics that aren't able to do that.

 

[jimbarkanoodle]

I hope Ukraine are continuing their offensive in the meantime. It wouldn't be good to let Putin think his nuclear threats yesterday (the fucking cheek of it!) had any effect on how things were going.

 

[frogwoman]

Thing is with nukes is that a general has got to sign off on it and carry out the order.

 

[frogwoman]

Anti draft protests happening in Dagestan now

 

[editor]

What an evil, evil government:

There were also reports from Russia that some of those detained for protesting had been handed draft papers while in custody at police stations. Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov, when asked about the reports, said that doing so was not against the law

Ukraine war: Russians flee to border after military call-up

Georgia's border sees large queues after flights sell out as some fighting-age men flee Russia.

www.bbc.co.uk

 

[editor]

They're so fucking brave those - mainly young - people protesting. Get arrested and you could spend 15 years in jail or sent to the front line.

Fuck Putin.

 

[Rob Ray]

What an evil, evil government:

Actively stupid as well, if that's happening. Sending anti-war activists to the front is essentially planting motivated organisers against your own side right where they'll do the most damage to morale. There's a reason European governments took a lesson from WWI to allow an out for "genuine objectors."

 

[friedaweed]

And we know how that ends

He throws up in my garden usually.

 

[Ax^]

Russia at the UN


the Ukraine's are the real bad guys
they should of gave us the Donbas and are nasty for fighting against us
plus nazies

 

[friedaweed]

Choon

 

[bcuster]

Actively stupid as well, if that's happening. Sending anti-war activists to the front is essentially planting motivated organisers against your own side right where they'll do the most damage to morale. There's a reason European governments took a lesson from WWI to allow an out for "genuine objectors."

they are being sent to be killed, not to fight...

 

[Ax^]

their is a video of a group of lad who went to counter protest the people who are in the square
acting the big on saying that have no problem with the war

then suddenly blubbing when the MPs grab them as well,


do hope its real

 

[friedaweed]

their is a video of a group of lad who went to counter protest the people who are in the square
acting the big on saying that have no problem with the war

then suddenly blubbing when the MPs grab them as well,


do hope its real

They will of shit their pants once they sobered up. They're just bairns

 

[The39thStep]

This is all over Twitter but looks like an excellent deal for Ukraine. What use is Medvedchuk to Russia though?

In the small print 5 Azov Commanders have been released ( Denys Prokopenko (aka Redis), Serhii Volynskyi (aka Volyna), Sviatoslav Palamar, Denys Shleha, Oleh Khomenko ) but are to stay in Turkey until the end of the war as part of the deal.

The two large exchanges of POWs at the end of June and yesterday total 359 out of which 151 are Azov.

 

[Ax^]

They will of shit their pants once they sobered up. They're just bairns

aye all bravado till someone drops a gun in your hand and sends you to the front
even they don't deserve it completely just brainwashed gobshites

how they did not notice the line of the press gang lining up around them can only the vodka
not sure how their mate got away but heard he last remark was "now aint this some shit"

 

[Pickman's model]

Actively stupid as well, if that's happening. Sending anti-war activists to the front is essentially planting motivated organisers against your own side right where they'll do the most damage to morale. There's a reason European governments took a lesson from WWI to allow an out for "genuine objobjectors.

You're assuming they'll be placed among soldiers in other units. Who probably don't have a great deal of belief in the war anyway. I wouldn't be surprised if they were placed in some sort of disciplinary battalion, given the shittest jobs with the shortest life expectancy. And with blocking troops behind them in case they're tempted to break. If putin was interested in morale he'd have acted rather differently over the past eight or nine months

 

[friedaweed]

You're assuming they'll be placed among soldiers in other units. Who probably don't have a great deal of belief in the war anyway. I wouldn't be surprised if they were placed in some sort of disciplinary battalion, given the shittest jobs with the shortest life expectancy. And with blocking troops behind them in case they're tempted to break. If putin was interested in morale he'd have acted rather differently over the past eight or nine months

That's if they don't go Private Pyle in training.

 

[Pickman's model]

That's if they don't go Private Pyle in training.

Or private pike

 

[Tanya1982]

aye all bravado till someone drops a gun in your hand and sends you to the front
even they don't deserve it completely just brainwashed gobshites

how they did not notice the line of the press gang lining up around them can only the vodka
not sure how their mate got away but heard he last remark was "now aint this some shit"

Yes, it's hard to take any satisfaction. They might be unpleasant little shits, but nobody deserves to be forced into frontline battle.

 

[friedaweed]

Yes, it's hard to take any satisfaction. They might be unpleasant little shits, but nobody deserves to be forced into frontline battle.

There are plenty of Russian's that should be sent to the front line.

 

[Artaxerxes]

That's if they don't go Private Pyle in training.

By most accounts FMJ had better training than the current Russian training regime

 

[Pickman's model]

Yes, it's hard to take any satisfaction. They might be unpleasant little shits, but nobody deserves to be forced into frontline battle.

Well... certain names such as putin, Johnson, lavrov, Biden, macron, truss, Cameron leap to mind as people who do deserve to be forced into front line battle

 

[Tanya1982]

Well... certain names such as putin, Johnson, lavrov, Biden, macron, truss, Cameron leap to mind as people who do deserve to be forced into front line battle

They deserve prison. The only people near a battle should be people who know what they're doing, and therefore don't need the extra manpower diverted to their supervision.

 

[ska invita]

Yes, it's hard to take any satisfaction. They might be unpleasant little shits, but nobody deserves to be forced into frontline battle.

Word from Ukrainian pacifists is that's happening amongst the Ukrainian military also

 

[Pickman's model]

They deserve prison. The only people near a battle should be people who know what they're doing, and therefore don't need the extra manpower diverted to their supervision.

It's OK, I can't see any politician lasting all that long in battle

 

[Ax^]

was that before or after the genetic superhumans waged a war of racial purity?

India and Pakistan could still get spicy just no eugenics

just religion

 

[LDC]

Word from Ukrainian pacifists is that's happening amongst the Ukrainian military also

Have you seen any reliable on that? And is there actually more than one Ukrainian pacifist? There's some writing knocking about the internet all from the same single Ukrainian pacifist who according to people there is a loon.