Ukraine and the Russian invasion, 2022-24
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Putin has announced partial mobilisation, starting immediately for reservists and those with military experience.
Summary of his address here:
Summary of his address here:
planetgeli
There's no future in England's dreaming
You say mobilise I say conscript.
He also emphasised "I'm not bluffing" about nuclear weapons.
He also emphasised "I'm not bluffing" about nuclear weapons.
Bahnhof Strasse
Met up with Hannah Courtoy a week next Tuesday
He’s again selling a version that is so detached from reality, the hutzpah on show is quite something; the west is trying to destroy Russia, the west is preventing peace in Ukraine, our aim is to liberate Donbas. When all that has happened is Russia has launched a war against their neighbour.
I do wonder how many Russians are really fooled by this?
I do wonder how many Russians are really fooled by this?
kebabking
Not a Girly Swot, but I like them....
I don't think Russians are fooled by the commentary on the progression the war - everyone knows it's gone badly: the 'accidents', the acts of goodwill, the changing of objectives, and then this partial mobilisation - but the claimed wider hostility of NATO towards Russia, the apparent desire of the West to flood Russian with Transgender Africans and then burn down the Russian Orthodox church, yeah, they broadly - to whatever degree - believe, or have some sympathy, with that.
cupid_stunt
Chief seagull hater & farmerbarleymow's nemesis.
Here's the full bonkers speech for those that missed it.
LDC
On est tous des pangolins
BBC R4 News has got a Russian spokesperson on now who actually sounds quite unhinged, bit scary tbh. (Edited2A: And yes, before I get slated, I know 'unhinged' isn't a great political analysis and I'm not putting this down to some 'they're all insane' thing, but fucking hell not very hopeful impression he gave.)
BassJunkie
Clams on the half shell, and roller skates.
That's It! It's War!
A380
How do I change this 'custom title' thing then?
There is no war with Ukraine as Ukrainians are Russia's brothers. Instead the West, Britain and the US have created an army of Ukrainian slave soldiers and used it to mount an attack on Russia.
Russia stands ready to fight and win a nuclear war against Britain.
Basically..
BassJunkie
Clams on the half shell, and roller skates.
Kevbad the Bad
Amiable Bowel Syndrome
Isn't that the Stop the War Coalition line?
jimbarkanoodle
Well-Known Member
Fascinated to see how the Russian public react to this. If they really are that brainwashed etc and go with it, the big old mess in Ukraine is going to get a whole lot worse.
Spymaster
Plastic Paddy
I wasted a minute clicking through that.
Might be worth flagging-up that it's a nonsense spoof piece.
cupid_stunt
Chief seagull hater & farmerbarleymow's nemesis.
The partial mobilisation of troops was expected, not sure how it will play out considering they are struggling getting supplies to those already fighting, and how motivated will these new troop be.
The nuclear threat is nothing new, and that option remains a major problem for Putin, because he knows the support from likes of China & India is already drifting away, I don't think the risk is any greater than it was yesterday, just a lot of hot air for the home audience.
ska invita
back on the other side
I think the new phase is all about holding current occupied territory seemingly being whittled away by Ukraine military, hence the call up of reservists, of referendum, and of peace sounds via Erdogan. In a way it's a deescelation of wider goals
cupid_stunt
Chief seagull hater & farmerbarleymow's nemesis.
Spymaster
Plastic Paddy
Well it's obviously that, but more as well. By holding these silly referendums he gets to cry 'invasion of Russian territory' when Ukraine strikes into them. They've always claimed they wouldn't use nuclear weapons unless Russia was invaded. He's paving the way to do that.
teqniq
DisMembered
Originally published a couple of weeks ago but only just come across it:
www.independent.co.uk
The Missing: The Ukrainians abducted in Putin’s war
The Independent’s investigation into what has happened to those lost in Russia's invasion of Ukraine has taken international correspondent Bel Trew across the country, finding new evidence of potential war crimes including torture, disappearances and forced labour that mean thousands are still...
www.independent.co.uk
Karl Masks
Birds Angel Delight
If Putin nukes Ukraine I would assume that would trigger WW3 since the west would have to reply.
Makes the 30p price increase on the price of Butter in Tesco this morning seem somewhat irrelevant.
When I was a kid, the 2020's were meant to be the point we travelled to space. According to the books I read about 'the future'. Not an era of pandemic and nuclear uncertainty.
I always wanted to see the future. Not sure I want it served in mushroom cloud
Makes the 30p price increase on the price of Butter in Tesco this morning seem somewhat irrelevant.
When I was a kid, the 2020's were meant to be the point we travelled to space. According to the books I read about 'the future'. Not an era of pandemic and nuclear uncertainty.
I always wanted to see the future. Not sure I want it served in mushroom cloud
maomao
普費斯
Well technically they don't because Ukraine's not in NATO. That's why Putin thinks he might be able to get away with it.
Spymaster
Plastic Paddy
I think it's very clear that there would be a retaliatory strike from the west and doubt for a second that Putin thinks otherwise. A lack of response would mean a whole new world order with Russia at the top of the tree, invading others at will. No way there wouldn't be a nuclear response to a first strike by Russia.
Karl Masks
Birds Angel Delight
I know, but an event of such magnitude would surely necessitate a reply. I don't want WW3, which such a response would surely trigger, but dropping a modern day strength nuke would change everything, would i not?
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