Ukraine and the Russian invasion, 2022-24

[Pickman's model]

No, clearly not.

You don't think it was in any way provocative for there to be an anti-russia alliance

 

[cupid_stunt]

You know Corbyn has said war with Ukraine must stop right?



I think he’s still speaking at Stop The Wars But Only Western Ones event but he’s never been good at choosing his mates

Oh, I know he's now saying the war must stop, but like Farage, he was happily blaming NATO before what's happened today, despite the fact that there was bugger all chance of Ukraine joining NATO in the foreseeable future.

 

[Artaxerxes]

Oh, I know he's now saying the war must stop, but like Farage, he was happily blaming NATO before what's happened today, despite the fact that there was bugger all chance of Ukraine joining NATO in the foreseeable future.

Bless him then.

Amazing how all these countries want to join the anti-Russia club for no reason.

 

[Pickman's model]

It's weird seeing Jeremy Corbyn & Farage singing from the same sheet of shit.

You should take a trip to Specsavers if that's what you're seeing

 

[RileyOBlimey]

Paul Mason speaking to Ukrainians outside Downing Street. Have they not suffered enough?

 

[bimble]

I don't think Putin's position is that strong if he isolates himself in the longer-term. Which he could do depending on how it goes in terms of being defined by a war whose outcome and duration is uncertain (I mean they nearly always are).

Yep. Optimistic (sort of) piece here saying that this will be the end of him.

Ukraine Invasion by Russia Is the Beginning of the End for Putin and His Friends

Vladimir Putin's attack on Ukraine will result in the downfall of him and his friends.

www.thedailybeast.com

 

[Indeliblelink]

Live feed from Moscow. -- location of some protest, there are a load of police and military and they've been grabbing people who don't seem to be doing much more than standing about and bundling them into vans.
ETA
Live stream down now but a recording here

 

[Pickman's model]

Live feed from Moscow. Not sure if this is meant to the location of some protest but there are a load of police and military and they've been grabbing people who don't seem to be doing much more than standing about and bundling them into vans.

Live event is over apparently

 

[The39thStep]

Paul Mason speaking to Ukrainians outside Downing Street. Have they not suffered enough?

"Do not fear Putin, this is how he can be defeated " ( checks notes). The man with the plan

 

[Indeliblelink]

Live event is over apparently

Yeah, I guess they grabbed the camera person.

 

[Pickman's model]

"Do not fear Putin, this is how he can be defeated " ( checks notes). The man with the plan

Mason will bore him to death

 

[agricola]

"Do not fear Putin, this is how he can be defeated " ( checks notes). The man with the plan

He couldn’t even win Vauxhall

 

[hitmouse]

was worried there for a sec

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I like how it cuts off just after that loaded "but". "I'm not saying Putin is a socialist comrade, but..."


Anyway, the Operation Solidarity project now has a wordpress site:

Operation Solidarity – Horizontal volunteer organization in Ukraine.

operation-solidarity.org

How to Help – Operation Solidarity

operation-solidarity.org

 

[bimble]

Live feed from Moscow. Not sure if this is meant to the location of some protest but there are a load of police and military and they've been grabbing people who don't seem to be doing much more than standing about and bundling them into vans.

Brave as fuck all of them.

 

[Pickman's model]

I hear anti-war protesters nicked in Irkutsk, Krasnoyarsk and Novosibirsk too

 

[Mirrors_Lie]

You don't think it was in any way provocative for there to be an anti-russia alliance

A Self-defence alliance of small countries (and one big one).

 

[Pickman's model]

Self-defence alliance of small countries (and one big one).

 

[Aladdin]

Yep. Optimistic (sort of) piece here saying that this will be the end of him.

Ukraine Invasion by Russia Is the Beginning of the End for Putin and His Friends

Vladimir Putin's attack on Ukraine will result in the downfall of him and his friends.

www.thedailybeast.com

This makes a lot of sense

 

[Pickman's model]

A Self-defence alliance of small countries (and one big one).

An alliance against Russia. Enlarged at a time when Russia posed no threat to anyone. It would have been cheaper and more effective to make a friend of Russia in the 1990s. Where's the peace dividend now?

 

[gosub]

It's weird seeing Jeremy Corbyn & Farage singing from the same sheet of shit.

I'll be honest, I don't think NATO iss entirely blamless, and most likely some very upset Ukranians by the end of all this. But the April Fools maneuvers spooked me and David Aaronvich is right it was fucking obvious by Monday night which way the wind was blowing and which narrative was going to fall apart. Seriously Vladamir? you happened to be training in the area and popped over the border after region self declared independance to discover a genocide being carried out by your neighbours? Having these former CCCP regions must be a right bitch, otherwise you'd no doubt be into Xinjiang like a shot.

 

[RileyOBlimey]

The propaganda on RT lacks sophistication but worth a watch as they’ve turned it up to 11.

 

[steveo87]

Um nice lads definitely not fash

Fash killing fash?

Not all bad, then.

 

[weltweit]

Is anyone keeping an eye on China lest they think this an opportune moment to make a grab for Taiwan?

 

[AmateurAgitator]

Um nice lads definitely not fash

Ask any Russian antifascist or anarchist and they will tell you about the Putin regimes' links with fascists and neo-nazis. It's something they have experience with unfortunately.

And though it is disturbing to see armed fascists mobilising, it's hardly surprising as someone pointed out.

 

[Aladdin]

There's a couple of posters on here that need to get their heads around this.

...if you took posters off ignore you might see that nobody here is supporting Putin?

 

[zahir]

Saw this on Twitter..
I wonder if it is true, I hope it is true!
Lost the original tweet when I logged in for some reason;

"Ukraine’s ambassador to the US just told us that a Russian platoon from the 74th Motorized Brigade has surrendered to Ukraine’s forces. She says that the Russian troops apparently had been unaware they were being sent to kill Ukrainians.
No confirmation yet from Russia’s military"

Reported here as well. Which doesn't necessarily make it true.

 

[Dystopiary]

Denmark and Finland are ready to take refugees from Ukraine, both their prime ministers have said.

 

[RileyOBlimey]

 

[hitmouse]

I remember Peter Gelderloos putting it well several weeks back, in a thread about the 2014 conflict:

 

[Idris2002]

was worried there for a sec

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What's this from? And what Trot sect produced it?